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| Author: | J.Daniels [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I don't want to break her heart... |
Title says it all. Call me a bitch, but this FWB... Lets call her Jane. I care about Jane a lot... but she cheated on her ex boyfriend (I don't care what you say, she'll cheat on future boyfriends too. I'm not wrong about that, and don't want advice on that, lol) ...Things got very sexual on the first date, and my game wasn't amazing. (I actually purposely acted beta, gave her a tube of Smarties as a "box of chocolates" and pretended that I got the advice from an online video... just to play it down) the thing is... she loves me. I want it to be more casual. I don't see a way of me doing anything that wont break her heart. Even a relationship... I don't want one, so I'd end it, and break her heart. It all started as just a girl I could meet to get over my ex. Then things got real. Advice? PS: I know it's my fault, I've been too... "here, meet my Mom" and hugging her and all that other stupid shit. |
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| Author: | DJ_Z [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Damn right it is your fault. You treated her like a girlfriend, now you're mad she wants to be your girlfriend. Just end it. There's no way to get out of this that wont' hurt her, but be aware it is entirely your fault. |
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| Author: | J.Daniels [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Quote: Damn right it is your fault. You treated her like a girlfriend, now you're mad she wants to be your girlfriend. Just end it. There's no way to get out of this that wont' hurt her, but be aware it is entirely your fault.
I didn't once deny it being my fault. I did the opposite.Again, my game wasn't great - we all sucked once. ...or maybe my game was "great" when it needed to be crap. I'm looking for a way to let her down gently, the least damaging way. Like I said, I care about her a lot, I just don't trust her. I'm not denying that I've been a dick... but I didn't know things would turn out like this. |
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| Author: | Crockett's [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Girl i'm sleeping with told her parents about me -_-. She cheated on ALL her previous boyfriends ( hahaha, no way I can ever trust that beautifull creature ) I started to like her aswell since I've been spending alot of time with her these last 2 months. let me know how you ended it if you ever do...it might come in handy for me. |
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| Author: | J.Daniels [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Quote: Girl i'm sleeping with told her parents about me -_-. She cheated on ALL her previous boyfriends ( hahaha, no way I can ever trust that beautifull creature ) I started to like her aswell since I've been spending alot of time with her these last 2 months. let me know how you ended it if you ever do...it might come in handy for me. She ignores the "bad" stuff and only pays attention to the "good" stuff (there obviously is "good" stuff; I really like her) |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
I always do this and do it deliberately? I'm seeing two girls frequently right now, and have two other friends I see once in a blue moon. I've met a lot of their friends, and family. I tell them I love them(and I do), but I also say I'm not in love with them. And I made it clear from the start, I care about them, but I will NEVER be their exclusive boyfriend. Hugging her? I do more than that. We hold hands anywhere we go in public, we lay around cuddling for an hour or more at my/her place. Occasionally we even go out and do things on dates without even having sex. I basically treat each girl as a girlfriend in every way, but make it plain we will not end up together. And yes, we have typical date times, and spontaneous ones as well. I let myself grow and form deep bonds with them, and allow them to do the same with me. We care about each other greatly. But in a totally non possessive way(occasionally they break things off, because they DO start dating some guy exclusively and I'm cool with this). I tell them about the other women, and that I love them too. I only bring this topic up twice, once when we first start, and again a little later, so she gets it for sure. Yes, a few girls have broken things off early because she thinks she's going to get hurt, but interestingly, those girls seem to have it rougher than the ones who don't do this. I always do this with pretty much every girl. And eventually, I stop seeing these girls. Broken hearts? No. So much of that is destruction of a fantasy future together. If you make sure she completely understands that this is temporary and you will never end up with her, I've yet to have a devastated girl. I make sure this topic is casually brought up at least every other month. But then again, I never make it a dramatic breakup. I spend at least a month slowing things down, and getting her in the frame of mind that she's getting a little bored with everything other than sex. I always make a point of highlighting any moment she seems bored and say something like, "anytime we hang out, you seem kind of distant. It's like the only way to snap you out of it, is to get you horny". I even bring up the topic of our future when she has a boyfriend or a husband. I tell her if she meets a guy and decides to become his girlfriend, we can't hang out anymore. Our sexual connection is too strong, and she will have sex with me(this is good, because it always comes true when she hangs out with me anyway Now in fairness, I actually am friends with these girls, and even once things cool off, I usually see them a few times a year. I still love them, and I never hide this fact. I think it's a great situation to be in, as you eventually have a pretty deep pool of former lovers that you infrequently hang out with. |
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| Author: | J.Daniels [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Quote: I always do this and do it deliberately?
I like this. The thing is... she gets paranoid if I even add another girl on Facebook lol. She'd be fucking devastated if she knew I slept with a girl or anything. I've never let her stay over at my house, and my reason is "No. That's too much like a relationship" ...then she goes and makes it exclusive on her part, which just makes me feel bad, and holds me back with a lot of other girls.I'm seeing two girls frequently right now, and have two other friends I see once in a blue moon. I've met a lot of their friends, and family. I tell them I love them(and I do), but I also say I'm not in love with them. And I made it clear from the start, I care about them, but I will NEVER be their exclusive boyfriend. Hugging her? I do more than that. We hold hands anywhere we go in public, we lay around cuddling for an hour or more at my/her place. Occasionally we even go out and do things on dates without even having sex. I basically treat each girl as a girlfriend in every way, but make it plain we will not end up together. And yes, we have typical date times, and spontaneous ones as well. I let myself grow and form deep bonds with them, and allow them to do the same with me. We care about each other greatly. But in a totally non possessive way(occasionally they break things off, because they DO start dating some guy exclusively and I'm cool with this). I tell them about the other women, and that I love them too. I only bring this topic up twice, once when we first start, and again a little later, so she gets it for sure. Yes, a few girls have broken things off early because she thinks she's going to get hurt, but interestingly, those girls seem to have it rougher than the ones who don't do this. I always do this with pretty much every girl. And eventually, I stop seeing these girls. Broken hearts? No. So much of that is destruction of a fantasy future together. If you make sure she completely understands that this is temporary and you will never end up with her, I've yet to have a devastated girl. I make sure this topic is casually brought up at least every other month. But then again, I never make it a dramatic breakup. I spend at least a month slowing things down, and getting her in the frame of mind that she's getting a little bored with everything other than sex. I always make a point of highlighting any moment she seems bored and say something like, "anytime we hang out, you seem kind of distant. It's like the only way to snap you out of it, is to get you horny". I even bring up the topic of our future when she has a boyfriend or a husband. I tell her if she meets a guy and decides to become his girlfriend, we can't hang out anymore. Our sexual connection is too strong, and she will have sex with me(this is good, because it always comes true when she hangs out with me anyway Now in fairness, I actually am friends with these girls, and even once things cool off, I usually see them a few times a year. I still love them, and I never hide this fact. I think it's a great situation to be in, as you eventually have a pretty deep pool of former lovers that you infrequently hang out with. Maybe I wait until Christmas is out of the way, and remind her that I want to see other people? Or maybe I just start it now? I'm seeing her today so I can just try and keep it a little boring other than sex? I don't know. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Quote: ...then she goes and makes it exclusive on her part
As you admitted in your earlier posts, her making it exclusive on her part is your fault for going along with it. With the next girls just let them know: "I'm not a relationship kind of guy." If you do not manage the relationship expectations you end up in the situation you are in now. I think you're going to have to just sit down with her and have an adult conversation about all of this. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Yes, I can't advise you on this particular situation as I've thankfully never found myself in it. But one thing I notice in this is that the girl is clearly scared. She loves you, and feels that you don't love her. I make it clear to my girls that I love them no matter what. Another girl is not going to steal me away from her. I still care about her, and I will care about her, even though I am seeing more than just her. Some girls are not ok with this. But a surprising amount are. They aren't looking for a husband, and since they don't feel like they could lose you to another girl at any moment, it actually relaxes them. She feels like you love her, and you'll be there for her next week, next month and next year. Even though she's not the only woman in your life. A big part of exclusivity for girls who are not currently interested in life long partners, is just a fear of loss. She doesn't want to lose you as a source of fun, comfort, support, motivation, etc. As long as she knows you're there for her, she's not so concerned about other women. |
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| Author: | J.Daniels [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I don't want to break her heart... |
Yea... it's only her who is exclusive. It makes me feel like I'm unfaithful lol. I'm just going to tell her (after Christmas - seems wrong to do it now) that I want to step back and have a few weeks off, to stop it feeling so... full on. |
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