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| Author: | OhMyItsRai [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Success Rate? |
OK so as a newly self proclaimed PUA I've been wondering what are the most successful PUA's success rates look like? What's your success rate? And last but not least how hot are the average woman you # close, kiss close, f close? Arbitrary format, it doesn't really matter but Id say for me when I'm feeling energetic and ready to succeed I'd say my # close and/or getting females to throw IOI's at me is ~85%. Don't have much experience going for a k-close or f-close....yet. As for attractiveness I'm assuming model looking girls are 9+ so the average girl I talk to is 6 or 7, only because in my area 9+ is about as rare as a billionaire. Actually I've met a billionaire and not a model looking girl so that might not be accurate haha. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Success Rate? |
Phone numbers are basically worthless within and of themselves. You need to be more focused on how interested this girl is in you. Phone numbers don't say much more than "He doesn't strike me as crazy/dangerous/creepy". Your goal should be sleeping with these girls, or at *least* getting dates. Using a number as a bridge from intro to date is fine. But the number should never be your goal. I'm not sure if you're doing spam approaching or semi-cold approach. Do you only talk to girls who will make eye contact, receptive body language, etc? If so, that's only semi-cold. Pure spam approach where you just see a girl, chase her down and go for it, has very, very low success. The only credible numbers I've seen posted are about 1-100 for lays. And this was the best. It's common to find 1,000+ with 0 lays(that's actually the norm). Which is why I'm pretty vehemently against spam approaching. Semi-warm approaching, where she receptively meets eye contact or gives other signals, has a much, much higher rate. The best numbers I've seen are close to %5. Though the norm is probably about %1(possibly lower when starting out). Warm approaching is where she's clearly into you. She's smiling at you, hovering around you, possibly even saying something to you, first. Success there, I've seen as high 1/3. |
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| Author: | OhMyItsRai [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Success Rate? |
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I'm not sure if you're doing spam approaching or semi-cold approach. Do you only talk to girls who will make eye contact, receptive body language, etc? If so, that's only semi-cold.
Yeah sure numbers don't mean shit but in general I don't have much experience and that was from past encounters. My sample size is still low since I started. I think it's at 2 lol, but I'm going to be aiming for dates of course.Whenever I'm in the mood, the situation is irrelevant so I guess you could say I mix it up Pure spam approach where you just see a girl, chase her down and go for it, has very, very low success. The only credible numbers I've seen posted are about 1-100 for lays. And this was the best. It's common to find 1,000+ with 0 lays(that's actually the norm). Which is why I'm pretty vehemently against spam approaching. Semi-warm approaching, where she receptively meets eye contact or gives other signals, has a much, much higher rate. The best numbers I've seen are close to %5. Though the norm is probably about %1(possibly lower when starting out). Warm approaching is where she's clearly into you. She's smiling at you, hovering around you, possibly even saying something to you, first. Success there, I've seen as high 1/3. Hmm, seems like theres a flaw in your methodology or maybe I'm misinterpreting but even if a girl isn't a "warm approach" at first you can easily strike up a conversation with her and she'll be more into you afterwards. From my experience and knowledge it doesn't matter if shes into you at first or not, first impressions are great, sure, but ending impressions trump all. Correct me if I'm wrong. But ofc when you play all of your cards right 1/3 of those approaches turning into whatever you want seems relatively accurate. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Success Rate? |
First impressions are a powerful indicator of future success. Most women you sleep with, will be women who were into you right from the start. Most women, no matter how good your skills, will not want to sleep with you. If she's interested up front, it means you're her type. If she isn't, you're much less likely to be. Women rarely sleep with strangers who are not their type. |
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