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Author:  Dr. Spargenator [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  What is pickup?

So tonight, I guess I'm kinda re analyzing this whole world of techniques and psychological concepts that i call pickup. And my question is, is this real social engineering or is it a bunch of crap that people are trying to decode from the game?

Which techniques work and wich ones don't? Are there certain teachings that are crap decoded from the game and certain teachings that are real?

Thanks for answering

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What is pickup?

It's not what you do, it's who you are.

Be an attractive guy.

Author:  Versalis [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What is pickup?

Quote:
So tonight, I guess I'm kinda re analyzing this whole world of techniques and psychological concepts that i call pickup. And my question is, is this real social engineering or is it a bunch of crap that people are trying to decode from the game?

Which techniques work and wich ones don't? Are there certain teachings that are crap decoded from the game and certain teachings that are real?

Thanks for answering
It's crap.
Most girls are not attracted to you, and it's a numbers game. Screening and sexual escalation is where the biggest part of "game" comes in. Yes, general charisma helps. Social status that is directly related to the girl also helps.
Beyond that, it's mostly meeting a girl who's into you from the start, escalating on her, making her feel safe, and taking her somewhere you can fuck her. Maybe you can win a few initially disinterested girls over, but why? It's just not time efficient. In the you spend trying to win over 10 disinterested women to succeed once, you could have quickly met over 100 women and one of them would have been extremely into you from the start.

Some of the psychological stuff plays into social circles. But for new women you've just met? It has almost nothing to do with it, and is at best, a small component of little matter.

I see you've used Speed Seduction in the past. I suggest reading Aaron Sleazy's free book. I think he mildly underplays the importance of what you say and do, but he's a lot more right than Ross Jefferies or Mystery. You can ramp up existing attraction and take her from "he's sort of cute" to "I want to fuck him!" but never "Eww, no" to DTF.

Tl;dr You can't "create" attraction. She has to be at least somewhat into you from the very start.

Author:  hugge [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What is pickup?

The techniques work if you know how to do them right, and you can only do that if you ARE that way. You need to "be your self". at all times. However, I personally am myself all the time, but it's not the same self as before. Went out today for instance, two years out of the game, not been out for almost a year, but was even more confident than ever. Opened sets in my rejection free manner as if I have never done anything else, made out with an ugly girl who I have never seen before just for the fun of it, and so on. I could never do that before.

My point is that you need to know what mindset and attitude these techniques come from. And don't see them as techniques, but as behaviors. So ask yourself what attitude you need to have to naturally do these "techniques" without even thinking about it.

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