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| Author: | thittato [ Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | avoiding friendzone |
I think my biggest sticking points when it comes to being friendzoned has been using women I'm attracted to as emotional support through seeking advice on various situations in my life, sharing too freely about absolutely everything going on in my life, and also showing too much interest when she tells about her stuff, like I'm her therapist, but I also make her MY therapist. So like a mutual therapeutic relationship. I'm very attractive as a friend to women, because I love sitting at café's with them, chatting about life and everything for hours and hours, but I'm not really good with sexual attraction, so it seems like lowering this therapeutic focus and put more focus into simply just having fun, is the way to go, making my inner life a bit more mysterious to her, not giving her complete and total access to everything going through my mind. Any thoughts on this transition? |
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| Author: | enlightenmentdating [ Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: avoiding friendzone |
If you’re not great at seducing and escalating with women, there are a couple things you can do. One, try to make sure you are using touch often with her. You can use touch rewards, or whatever you want. Just make sure you are touching her early on in the interaction. Just you making physical contact with her, even if its just the outside of her arm, will start to bring the idea of her getting physical with you into her mind. She won’t even realize it, it’s just a natural instinct for women. So make sure you establish touch early, and keep it consistent. Another great way to escalate for beginners is to bring sexuality into your humor, even during the attraction phase. Bring up sex topics in your humor EARLY. If you do this she will start seeing you as a person who is very sexually comfortable, and in turn will start to imagine getting physical with you. Pretty cool right? If you need a starting point for good sexual humor say something like, “Don’t you think it’s weird how people in our generation are really uncomfortable talking about sex? Like I’m doing kegels right now, so what?” haha Then you can go on to say how you need to do kegels to last long in the bedroom, then you can talk about how most chumps don’t last nearly long enough, then you can tease her about how boring she probably is in the bedroom because cute girls are always boring in bed. Now you have attraction, now you have sexual tension. Get at it dude. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: avoiding friendzone |
Girls can lose interest in you if you're too passive. All you need to do is keep proximity. When you go on a date, sit next to her. Is she having a good time? Great! Lock eyes with her, and move in slowly for a kiss. Once you've been kissing her and touching her all night, always invite her back to your place. Then gradually build towards sex(calibrate your speed based on her response). I totally disagree about injecting sexual topics into the conversation. Though it's good to be comfortable with talking about sex, most guys who add in sexual themes come off like they're trying too hard and it backfires. You don't really need to talk about sex. Sex is implied every time you're interacting with a woman. There is really no such thing as a friendzone. There is either attraction is there is not. You are instantly friendzoned if she doesn't find you attractive. On the other hand, you can know her for months and never be friendzoned, because she views you as sexy the entire time. Have you ever read one of 60 Years of Challenge's books? Chase's book(dude who wrote the article above) is also very good, though a lot more complicated and can lead to some confusion. |
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| Author: | dtrak [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: avoiding friendzone |
Exactly, you pretty much know what you are doing wrong. The process of seduction is a more careful thread, you have to keep that spark alive between the two of you by flirting/being a potential lover. how deep you want to take it is up to you and your goals. If you want a GF, obviously you still flirt but get to know her more as well. And if you want to lay the pipe, you handle things a bit diffrent. But you must thread carefully. Make sure the girl is up for it. This is were "Connection" And getting to know "one another" comes into play. You talk, you flirt, you open up equally to eachother by maintaining a clear sexual tension due to "availability" and "flirting". Then you decide what she seems up for, and take it from there. Make sense? Go get em'tiger it seems complicated but is not, is simple and natural. Good luckk |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: avoiding friendzone |
Read 50 shades and any other literotica out there you can find written by women. It will help you understand what women like sexually. My girlfriend said she couldn't finish 50 shades of grey because she couldn't stop masturbating. THAT is how to make a girl horny my friend |
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| Author: | duskriddles [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: avoiding friendzone |
Quote: If you’re not great at seducing and escalating with women, there are a couple things you can do.
i just read this. makes so much sense. thank you for the great insight!!!
One, try to make sure you are using touch often with her. You can use touch rewards, or whatever you want. Just make sure you are touching her early on in the interaction. Just you making physical contact with her, even if its just the outside of her arm, will start to bring the idea of her getting physical with you into her mind. She won’t even realize it, it’s just a natural instinct for women. So make sure you establish touch early, and keep it consistent. Another great way to escalate for beginners is to bring sexuality into your humor, even during the attraction phase. Bring up sex topics in your humor EARLY. If you do this she will start seeing you as a person who is very sexually comfortable, and in turn will start to imagine getting physical with you. Pretty cool right? If you need a starting point for good sexual humor say something like, “Don’t you think it’s weird how people in our generation are really uncomfortable talking about sex? Like I’m doing kegels right now, so what?” haha Then you can go on to say how you need to do kegels to last long in the bedroom, then you can talk about how most chumps don’t last nearly long enough, then you can tease her about how boring she probably is in the bedroom because cute girls are always boring in bed. Now you have attraction, now you have sexual tension. Get at it dude. |
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