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Author:  lowriderzzz [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  good with women but can't defend/fight
Hey guys.

I wondered recently is there anyone here that is really good with women but can't defend or fight. No martial arts training or at least some practical self defense? Or at least if someone knows someone like that.

I on youtube most PUA guys don't look very warrior like.

I wonder how do you deal with sticky situations like if some pest coming to bother you... or the girl you are with.

I think its kind of though if you don't fight him back.


I know a lot of situations with women lead or predispose to conflict with other men. I don't mean that the women forces men against each other and you get into it. I talk about a situation like when you walk in the park lets say and some jack ass comes and starts messing with you.

Don't get me wrong I'm not Mr. Fight club dude. However I like practice martial arts.
Author:  Mr. Marville [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:54 pm ]
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I practiced martial arts intensely since 13 years old. However never got into a situation where I needed to use this.

It is true that women play men against another. If this happens don't fall for it but team up against her. Remember what Schopenhauer wrote: men are by nature indifferent towards another whereas women are by definition rivals.
Author:  taz22 [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: good with women but can't defend/fight
I carry a gun on me most the time, fighting i gotten into a few but not over a woman.
Author:  ConsciousLuv [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:00 am ]
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Womens like to see you in intense situations so they can experience your true nature.

You can do whatever you want too deal with it, but be decisive and keep at it.
You can ignore him or calm him. Keep going with your choice, no matter what. Know why youre doing it.

Remember, you have her under your wings.
Everything is your fault and assume it.
Words are usualy stronger than fists, womens deeply knows about it.
Author:  lowriderzzz [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: good with women but can't defend/fight
Quote:
Womens like to see you in intense situations so they can experience your true nature.

You can do whatever you want too deal with it, but be decisive and keep at it.
You can ignore him or calm him. Keep going with your choice, no matter what. Know why youre doing it.

Remember, you have her under your wings.
Everything is your fault and assume it.
Words are usualy stronger than fists, womens deeply knows about it.
Yes it is true but my question was different. I don't ask it because I don't know what to do.

Its more like a survey or just curiosity.
Author:  lowriderzzz [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: good with women but can't defend/fight
Quote:
I practiced martial arts intensely since 13 years old. However never got into a situation where I needed to use this.

It is true that women play men against another. If this happens don't fall for it but team up against her. Remember what Schopenhauer wrote: men are by nature indifferent towards another whereas women are by definition rivals.
I don't mean that the women forces men against each other and you get into it. I talk about a situation like when you walk in the park lets say and some jack ass comes and starts messing with you.
Author:  Mr. Marville [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:09 pm ]
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I talk about a situation like when you walk in the park lets say and some jack ass comes and starts messing with you.
Seriously though. What's the chances of that happening? If it happens defend yourself like in any situation. I know a karate champ who had his girl with him when attacked by a group at a train station. Because he feared they would target her he tried his way in court. But the justice system is utterly fucked and they didnt punish the creeps. Next time I am not going through court he said.

Also watch out that the girl doesnt think you are some vigilante that scares her off with your violence. Even if you beat a rapist from her ass women are conditioned to loathe displays of masculine confrontations.
Author:  lowriderzzz [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:02 pm ]
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Even if you beat a rapist from her ass women are conditioned to loathe displays of masculine confrontations.
mmm... can't say so. I think women get turned on by masculine confrontation. Its not the only way, but its still something that triggers their primal part of the brain. (same part thats triggered when she is horny and ready for sex).
Author:  Rebooting [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:07 pm ]
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I am 100 kgs and do kickboxing. So yes, I guess I could stand my ground if needed, and I absolutely would if someone actually threatened me or a girl who's with me like you described.

That being said, I have never been in a situation where I actually had to fight ever since I started training. Don't know how much of it is due to me becoming more intimidating and how much due to me moving out of the worse parts of town... And I wouldn't fight unless it is absolutely needed. I've had a few drunk jackasses wanting to pick fights, but it's like "nah man, better go home and sober up... Don't wanna wind with your puke all over my shoes". I think 90% of the fights are realtively easy to avoid if you just GTFO. Shouldn't be a problem with your image with women either as long as it is clear you are not scared, but just can't be bothered with that ghetto alcoholic "Ill fookin boost yer head in m8" kind of bullshit.
Author:  Greggomatik [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:01 pm ]
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As Bounce07 is saying, or at least what I think he's saying, is you'll get more points by avoiding the fight that getting into it. AMOG em, its crazy intimidating to them when they're getting all pissed off and worked up and you calmly explain to them that fighting will do no good. They start to wonder why you're not taking the bait, then they start thinking that you know something they dont....meaning you could easily kick their ass yet you choose not to.
Author:  Greggomatik [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:05 pm ]
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Also, go to the gym. A little muscle definition cuts down on 90% of what you think might happen. Though, Ive never really had a dude come up and try to cause an issue with me or a chick. The worst thats happened is dudes hitting on my date when in the bathroom or grabbing a drink. Sometimes my date is successful in chasing them off, sometimes they give it their all until they see me about to come back to the table (and Im not a huge dude). Ive never come back to the table and still had the dude there trying to pick up my date. All in all, dudes are giant pussies in situations like that. The only time I can see you having a problem is if you're the dude trying to pickup some guys girl
Author:  lowriderzzz [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:24 pm ]
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Also, go to the gym. A little muscle definition cuts down on 90% of what you think might happen. Though, Ive never really had a dude come up and try to cause an issue with me or a chick. The worst thats happened is dudes hitting on my date when in the bathroom or grabbing a drink. Sometimes my date is successful in chasing them off, sometimes they give it their all until they see me about to come back to the table (and Im not a huge dude). Ive never come back to the table and still had the dude there trying to pick up my date. All in all, dudes are giant pussies in situations like that. The only time I can see you having a problem is if you're the dude trying to pickup some guys girl
I was basically talking about a self defense situation. But good insight on that too.
Author:  Mr. Marville [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:32 am ]
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Even if you beat a rapist from her ass women are conditioned to loathe displays of masculine confrontations.
mmm... can't say so. I think women get turned on by masculine confrontation. Its not the only way, but its still something that triggers their primal part of the brain. (same part thats triggered when she is horny and ready for sex).

I mean all this bullshit "men are always so rough, aggressive bunch of barbarians, coarse brutes, trying to intimidate others. Fighting is something our they often associate with lower class life, with drunkards, rapists, domestic abusers... 'if only women would rule, they care about the children, there would be no wars or battles'..." Even though deep down inside they are often attracted to it. But flip a coin. You beat off an attacker. One half she might say "that was great, you defended us", the other half "that was out of proportion, you did not have to hit him, it could have escalated, aren't you a civilised person?" A friend of mine started doing Krav Maga and all the girls in his flat said he was trying to be a vigilante, and said this in a derisive manner.
Author:  PatrickAnanda [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:57 am ]
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What the actual fuck?

Listen to me: As a cardinal rule, the moment you fight, you've already lost the girl. Simple as that.
Women are looking for the FUN, and a fight is not it. But, like everything I say, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Go out and try it yourself. All the posts above are keyboard jockeying mental masturbation.

I've been doing Muay Thai for over 3 years and have never gotten into a fight outside the ring. Have there been opportunities? Sure, but I'm not up for that shit. It's simply not worth it.

I think your real question is how to deal with people who tool you. The answer is simple: You don't deal with them. They simply aren't a part of your reality. When you react to others, you are submitting to them. Plain and simple. If you walk down a street and a dog barks at you, will you go home feeling like crap and reevaluating yourself? No. Because it's just a dog. So why would you do the same when someone you barely know tries to tool you?

Guys like that live off other people's attention. If you withdraw your attention, they collapse. In Spain, I pulled a girl away from 5 dutch guys. I just walked up, locked eyes, took her hand and pulled her away. We were talking within an inch from each other, laughing and flirting. I can hear the dutch guy yell at me "hey! HEY! Dude! Wtf do you think you're doing?? HEY!" Louder and louder. I simply ignored him. It just didn't register and he eventually realized I won't be intimidated by him and fucked off. I'm 5'5 and skinny btw.

Chill out man. If you go out looking for a fight, you'll find it. If you go out looking for beauty, adventure and good people, you'll find that too. It's all a question of where you choose to direct your focus.

Love
Mack
Author:  Stenic1 [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: good with women but can't defend/fight
Dont see the point in fighting... dont do any martial arts or anything of the such but i have been in a few fights in my life ive never lost and i know how to through a punch. I mainly walk away and ive never started a fight.

I have got extremely angry a few times which in the heat of the moment can cause some people to back down.
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