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| Author: | southern_gentlemangq [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | is it truly posible? |
is it really possible that a man who is beta can become an alpha?....i know through experience that an alpha can become a beta cause it happened to me bakc in high school i was a alpha negative, confident, good looking, and used my charm to get all the girls BUT i wasn't really goal oriented and driven like a real alpha.....anyway a girl broke my heart 3 years ago and im still recovering, i don't think about her at all but my confidence has suffered ALOT....i can still pick up women but not nearly as much as i used to and i've recently seen an attractive girl and was simply afraid to talk to her......that happens alot recently.... i think either i've always been a beta or i turned into one and i want to know has anybody on here went from a beta to an alpha... im 21 and my other question is do you think it's to late....i heard your early 20's re about building yourself and i think i accidentally made myself into a beta |
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| Author: | _Lothario_ [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it truly posible? |
You can do anything you want. Practice. |
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| Author: | hugge [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it truly posible? |
I'm no fan of calling people "alpha" or "beta" for several reasons. And since these reasons can be an answer to your question, I will share them with you: 1. An alpha male, by definition (I think) is the physically strongest individual in a group (think wolves and apes) who reached that status by physical force - by fighting. Alpha male behavior among animals is quite much the same as you see among scumbags and criminals. In our society that is low status behavior. So let's day the word "dominant" is what we search for in a human alpha male for the sake of the discussion. 2. Human groups are very dynamic and change all the time as people come and go. Sometimes you are dominant, sometimes you are not. Some individuals are more dominant than others, and the dynamics of a group depends on what individuals are currently part of the group. It also depends on the mood. If the leader has a bad day someone else may take his role, and so on... 3. You can dominate in so many different ways, and whether it is good to be dominating or not also depends on a variety of things. You can dominate spacially with your body language, locking someone out by turning your back towards him. Good or bad? Depends. You can dominate a conversation by leading it and talking a lot. Good if your audience find it interesting, bad otherwise. You can also dominate without saying a word, just because you have made such an impression earlier that people listen to you as soon as you open your mouth. So what do we mean by being "alpha"? We usually mean to be confident and have good self-esteem. And yes - these are things that come and go depending on what happens to you. You need to rebuild your self-esteem by yourself, maybe with help from a psychologist if you need to. And what is that bullshit about "too late"? I was 33 years old when I stopped being "beta" if I may use that word. It is never too late. A winner gets knocked down, and gets up again. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it truly posible? |
Dude theres guys that have been beta there entire life that become Alphas at 30. I think you're fine. And anything you once were you ca get back to with ease. It's like riding a bike, no matter how long you go without riding, you'll be able to pick it up again as long as you have learned once before. |
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| Author: | _Lothario_ [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it truly posible? |
Think of it more as an Alpha mentality, rather than being the AMOG or Alpha male in the room. Sometimes I go out with dudes that have more Alpha traits than I do, or they're just plain the Alpha dog everywhere they go, and have been that way longer than I have. There is a downfall to Alpha mentality however. Alpha males NEED to feel Alpha, and start acting very jealous and needy when they aren't getting the attention. It is a huge weakness of theirs and once aware, it is easy to poke them down about it. But really the whole alpha sense here is basically about not letting other people control your frame. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it truly posible? |
People tend to change less and get stuck in their ways as they age, yes. Plus, if you've been letting everyone push you around for decades, odds are, that isn't going to change. *Can* someone change when they're over 30? Yes. But it's not common. Most people pretty much are who they are by their mid 20s. |
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