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| Author: | pickupenthusiast [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
In the past, I had several dates with Asian girls which went wrong because of me touching them. I have the impression that they do not feel comfortable with you touching them in public. When I used the same technique with European girls, everything just went fine. What I usually do is casually touching the girl while sitting next and talking to her. When I realize she doesn't mind me touching her, I continue. With Asian girls this doesn't seem to work, however. They have a different conception of how far you can go during the first date and they don't like it when you come too close. My SPAM is Korean and he told me that in Asian countries this is considered to be too forward/direct. Today I have a date with a Chinese student and I don't want to fuck it up again. Any ideas how to procede? |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Most of the asian girls that I meet here in NYC are pretty promiscuous. Its almost as if they watch american reality TV and try to fit in by behaving the way the women do on the show. In the sexual sense. But i've always treated all girls the same bro. I don't walk around trying to please everyone. Although I have dealt with conservative girls and the trick is to just slow down the touching. Where as you would usually make a hand touch the first "non alarm setting touch", make it something lighter like a brush against the shoulder. Just smart smaller than usual and work slower. |
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| Author: | pickupenthusiast [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: Most of the asian girls that I meet here in NYC are pretty promiscuous. Its almost as if they watch american reality TV and try to fit in by behaving the way the women do on the show. In the sexual sense.
I fucked it up again xD The date itself was really good and we had a good conversation. I also slightly touched her and I had the impression that she liked it. But when I held her hand, she reacted very weirdly. Her hand was all stiff and you could see that she felt really uncomfortable. It was too much for her. We then talked about relationsships and she told me that she hasn't kissed but one man in her entire life (at the age of 23). She has also had but one boyfriend until now. This is the case with many Asian girls I met up with during the last years. I think in order to escalate with these girls you have to invest A LOT more time than just one date, which is something I'm not willing to do. But i've always treated all girls the same bro. I don't walk around trying to please everyone. Although I have dealt with conservative girls and the trick is to just slow down the touching. Where as you would usually make a hand touch the first "non alarm setting touch", make it something lighter like a brush against the shoulder. Just smart smaller than usual and work slower. When it comes to kino, it's probably right what you've said, that you basically have to slow down the touching. From what I've experienced so far, it's good to not touch at all during the first two to three dates because they want to get to know you first. I think as soon as they know you a bit, you can also start touching them, but not before. The whole process is way too long, though, and not worth investing any time. By the way: She told me that in China girls get married at the age of 23. Her parents are already looking for a potential husband for her while she's here in Germany. There seems to be a lot of pressure on these young girls, which is something I haven't been aware of. How are these girls to enjoy life and love, if they're forced to marry someone without having ANY experience? |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: it's good to not touch at all during the first two to three dates because they want to get to know you first. I think as soon as they know you a bit, you can also start touching them, but not before. The whole process is way too long, though, and not worth investing any time.
Watch out for painting that broad of a brush or assuming this is the case for all girls of a particular group. Meet more girls and see how it goes. Stalling that long before even going kino would become a self fulfilling prophecy as in, "oh i guess they're not into me" when in fact many girls will walk after 1 date if there's no escalation of some sort.
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| Author: | pickupenthusiast [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: Quote: it's good to not touch at all during the first two to three dates because they want to get to know you first. I think as soon as they know you a bit, you can also start touching them, but not before. The whole process is way too long, though, and not worth investing any time.
Watch out for painting that broad of a brush or assuming this is the case for all girls of a particular group. Meet more girls and see how it goes. Stalling that long before even going kino would become a self fulfilling prophecy as in, "oh i guess they're not into me" when in fact many girls will walk after 1 date if there's no escalation of some sort.And there is a HUGE difference between European and Asian women. I've met A LOT of women to make this generalization. Whereas European women want you to kino escalate, Asian women are scared as fuck if you touch them, at least here in Germany. It might be different in bigger cities like NYC or in another country. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
It's so much not about cultural differences about touching as it is about whether or not a girl is a virgin. Don't bother with all this racial bullshit. Screen girls for sexual experience and next the virgins. Don't ever bother with virgins. |
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| Author: | pickupenthusiast [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: It's so much not about cultural differences about touching as it is about whether or not a girl is a virgin.
This actually HAS something to do with cultural differences. Gaming an Asian girl is different than gaming an European girl. I can tell from my own experience. This has nothing to do with racism.Don't bother with all this racial bullshit. Screen girls for sexual experience and next the virgins. Don't ever bother with virgins. Or how do you explain the fact that the very same approach works with European girls but not with Asian girls? I don't think that this is an coincidence, given the number of Asian girls I've already met up with. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: This actually HAS something to do with cultural differences. Gaming an Asian girl is different than gaming an European girl. I can tell from my own experience. This has nothing to do with racism.
Your frame should be so strong that the frames set by a foreign cultures should have very little bearing on the effectiveness of your actions coming from YOUR frame on YOUR home turf.Or how do you explain the fact that the very same approach works with European girls but not with Asian girls? I don't think that this is an coincidence, given the number of Asian girls I've already met up with. I've lived in Korea for the past 5 years. I kino less in general in social situations. When it comes to seduction, it's a whole different story. We're not in Korea anymore when it's seduction time. We're in MY WORLD. Sure, there are some calibration differences here and there but the fundamentals of kino in my frame ABSOLUTELY CRUSH all other opposing frames. I've even kino'd through and laid virgins here. So even my objection with the "Don't bother with virgins" shit is nothing if you've got a killer frame (there's just many other reasons why you shouldn't bother with virgins). Sure, sometimes I wasn't as calibrated and scared off a few girls here and there with my kino but 99% of the time I'm all over her. Just not so blatantly in public where everyone can see. But the private kino is no different from American or European girls. Yes, I've certainly had plenty of experience with girls from all of those cultures, too. Regardless of culture you're going to have ASD. Varying levels of ASD, yes, but it's all a fucking mask. If your game is tight then the masks come off. So, in conclusion, the same approach DOES work for Asian girls. It works for all girls. I'm living proof. And it's not because I'm special. Anyone can do what I do. You just need to work on (1) your frame control and probably (2) your lowering-ASD skills. It's just a lot harder to lower ASD in someone when she's a damn virgin. So, like I said, screen for sexual experience. |
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| Author: | pickupenthusiast [ Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: Quote: This actually HAS something to do with cultural differences. Gaming an Asian girl is different than gaming an European girl. I can tell from my own experience. This has nothing to do with racism.
Your frame should be so strong that the frames set by a foreign cultures should have very little bearing on the effectiveness of your actions coming from YOUR frame on YOUR home turf.Or how do you explain the fact that the very same approach works with European girls but not with Asian girls? I don't think that this is an coincidence, given the number of Asian girls I've already met up with. I've lived in Korea for the past 5 years. I kino less in general in social situations. When it comes to seduction, it's a whole different story. We're not in Korea anymore when it's seduction time. We're in MY WORLD. Sure, there are some calibration differences here and there but the fundamentals of kino in my frame ABSOLUTELY CRUSH all other opposing frames. I've even kino'd through and laid virgins here. So even my objection with the "Don't bother with virgins" shit is nothing if you've got a killer frame (there's just many other reasons why you shouldn't bother with virgins). Sure, sometimes I wasn't as calibrated and scared off a few girls here and there with my kino but 99% of the time I'm all over her. Just not so blatantly in public where everyone can see. But the private kino is no different from American or European girls. Yes, I've certainly had plenty of experience with girls from all of those cultures, too. Regardless of culture you're going to have ASD. Varying levels of ASD, yes, but it's all a fucking mask. If your game is tight then the masks come off. So, in conclusion, the same approach DOES work for Asian girls. It works for all girls. I'm living proof. And it's not because I'm special. Anyone can do what I do. You just need to work on (1) your frame control and probably (2) your lowering-ASD skills. It's just a lot harder to lower ASD in someone when she's a damn virgin. So, like I said, screen for sexual experience. |
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| Author: | Danny55 [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Listen dude. If you can't be fucking bothered to invest some time into getting to know them and for them to trust and like you then go to a fucking prostitute you asshole. You need to stop touching girls you barely know. What the fuck is wrong with you? You sound needy and desperate. No woman wants to be with a creep that touches them so early on. You need to get your shit together man. |
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| Author: | pickupenthusiast [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to kino escalate with Asian girls? |
Quote: Listen dude. If you can't be fucking bothered to invest some time into getting to know them and for them to trust and like you then go to a fucking prostitute you asshole. You need to stop touching girls you barely know. What the fuck is wrong with you? You sound needy and desperate. No woman wants to be with a creep that touches them so early on. You need to get your shit together man.
LOL! That's what kino is about! There is nothing wrong about touching a girl as long as it arises from the situation and is not forced. At some point you need to make the first step. This can be on the 1st date or later, it doesn't matter. Touching someone also doesn't necessarily mean that you're needy. I know a lot of people who talk with their hands and to whom touching comes naturally. Also, you can show your intent through touching. Of course this is a really direct approach but if it fits your personality, it is just consistent. If you prefer a different approach, that's cool, but don't refer to people who think differently and who you don't know as "assholes".
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