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| Author: | SkippyASW [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
I'm involved in 3 different situations. Hopefully some advice will enlighten me. 1. HB7. I've got her # from OKC. She's from a different city (180km away). She's 19 and just got into university. I've been talking to her for like two weeks and also exchanged explicit pics (she suggested it!). We've decided the best way is her to come to my city and just have fun for a weekend. Well...I tried to contact her Thursday night and...no response... Friday as well... Sunday, the third time! NO FUKKIN RESPONSE! The heck am I supposed to think?! I know she read the messages on whatsup so it's annoying. 2. HB8. Got her # in a mall and went on an instant date. The convo went good and had some kino but the kiss was on the cheeks. We've talked for another week and decided to go for a second date, but that night she said they needed her at the hospital and couldn't get out til 10. I got pissed and drank two beers. Ofcourse she decided to call and press me to pick her up with my car. I declided saying I can't drink and drive, but could take a taxi. She said it's not that comfortable but ok (yeah...she likes fancy cars...made that pretty clear within our first encounter). As if things weren't weird enough, the taxi took forever to get there and she was mad AS HELL!! She let me know she can't stay for too long and suggested a coffee shop nearby. Lovely SPAM, except the chairs, which were absolutely horrendous! I could barely hold her hand! And that sucked. However, after we exited the venue she became cold and even deflected the kiss. The problem is that we didn't engage in anything romantic or sexy cause everytime I tried that she abruptly changed the subject! I don't know if it helps but she's kind of a tomboy. I didn't call her since saturday night thinking I must come up with something that clearly engages things in a more sexual or romantic way. 3. HB7,5. I got her # from Tinder. Went for whatsup and calling pretty fast but couldn't get her on a date for a fuckin week. She's always busy and shit. Ofcourse she cancelled twice. I mean, the first time, we should've met at 8 but at 6 she said some relatives would come to her house and won't be able to get out. Also the next day at 11pm apologised for breaking her phone and not being able to text back. Yesterday we said we'll talk at 5 to settle the time and place, but couldn't reach to her until 10 when she texted that she just got home and she's sorry for the plans. So from 3 interactions that went really well on the phone and through text, I got ZERO pussy. Any advice on how should I approach them? Or if I SHOULD anymore? |
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| Author: | Stenic1 [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
They all flaked! leave them and move on. Dont get hung up on them. Escalate more with your next girl and give her a bit more space. Sounds to me like your smothering them a little. Also your tomboy chick sounds like a bitch who just wanted a free ride home. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
3 chicks and no tail isn't really abnormal, man... You have to fail to succeed (unless you're really smooth and really good looking). If you can bat .300 on closes you're an all-star. |
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| Author: | Stenic1 [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
I remember when i first started and girls would flake ! It freaked me out and i thought it was me, where as in fact it was me... i cared to much and girls cottoned on and would flake. If you act like you dont care when the flake for example - Awww i have family coming over so i cant get out tonight. my reply would be - awww cool no problem anyways i can meet the lads down the pub then lol ideal ! text me when you can. 
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| Author: | SkippyASW [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
Quote: 3 chicks and no tail isn't really abnormal, man...
Yeah, it's a number's game, but the interaction was really good! I'm thinking maybe I should let them be for some days and re-engage later. But how do you go from talking about fucking in the kitchen and not answering the phone?! Maybe I pushed things too far before actually seeing them... I havent' let any mystery...
You have to fail to succeed (unless you're really smooth and really good looking). If you can bat .300 on closes you're an all-star. |
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| Author: | Stenic1 [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
Quote: Quote: 3 chicks and no tail isn't really abnormal, man...
Yeah, it's a number's game, but the interaction was really good! I'm thinking maybe I should let them be for some days and re-engage later. But how do you go from talking about fucking in the kitchen and not answering the phone?! Maybe I pushed things too far before actually seeing them... I havent' let any mystery...You have to fail to succeed (unless you're really smooth and really good looking). If you can bat .300 on closes you're an all-star. Dont get hung up on it. Give them space cause tension and make yourself scarce dont always ask to meet them. Say your busy etc. If i have a flakey girl in the past ive asked her to meet she says yes and then i flake on her jst to piss her off because everyone wants what they cant have. |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
I dated this "deeply religious" girl who told me a guy has to eat her pussy, and this was on our first date. Yet I never ended up getting any action from her. I had another girl flake on me five times in a row. She told me about how she liked "painting pussies" on our first instant date, whatever that means. I never got laid from her either. Needless to say, I was very disappointed given the ioi's I got. Another time, I was talking to 3 girls at once, actually more than that. And I ended up getting laid by all three on three consecutive days, one after the other, boom boom boom. Yes, some of these girls were crazy. Yes, my game probably was a little off some times. Yes, I did get lucky other times, or the situation just happened to be right. The point is, you may just be unlucky, or these girls may be flakey nutjobs, or perhaps your game has some holes in it. Either way, keep analyzing your game and making corrections. Continue to improve yourself and continue to game other girls. Eventually it will pay off. |
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| Author: | SkippyASW [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
Quote: I dated this "deeply religious" girl who told me a guy has to eat her pussy, and this was on our first date. Yet I never ended up getting any action from her. I had another girl flake on me five times in a row. She told me about how she liked "painting pussies" on our first instant date, whatever that means. I never got laid from her either. Needless to say, I was very disappointed given the ioi's I got.
Yeah, it's all about constant improving. I was wondering how should I escalate with women that say things like "I don't like talking about myself" or just change the topic when you try to qualify them.
Another time, I was talking to 3 girls at once, actually more than that. And I ended up getting laid by all three on three consecutive days, one after the other, boom boom boom. Yes, some of these girls were crazy. Yes, my game probably was a little off some times. Yes, I did get lucky other times, or the situation just happened to be right. The point is, you may just be unlucky, or these girls may be flakey nutjobs, or perhaps your game has some holes in it. Either way, keep analyzing your game and making corrections. Continue to improve yourself and continue to game other girls. Eventually it will pay off. |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
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Yeah, it's all about constant improving. I was wondering how should I escalate with women that say things like "I don't like talking about myself" or just change the topic when you try to qualify them.
Sounds like they either don't like the direction you were headed with the conversation, or they are very boring and don't have much going for them. You can still get them to talk about themselves without it being a biographical dissertation, which usually is what those conversations turn into. I graduated here, then I got a job here, and I want to eventually do this, and my favorite thing to do is travel, blah blah blah. I know the cube is kind of played out, but do something like that. Or the log cabin. Give them some kind of personality test where you are getting feedback from them and to them it feels playful and fun. You can then qualify them based on what they tell you. That's why its good to have little canned bits and routines to fall back on. Because sometimes normal natural conversations fall flat and you just can't seem to keep them going. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
Welcome to the game. Meet more girls and hone your techniques to discover what results in the least amount of flakes for you individually. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
3 whole numbers huh? |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
Quote: 3 chicks and no tail isn't really abnormal, man...
If you can bat even 0.100 on f-closes from just a number-close you are an all star.
You have to fail to succeed (unless you're really smooth and really good looking). If you can bat .300 on closes you're an all-star. |
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| Author: | JJoj [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
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If you can bat even 0.100 on f-closes from just a number-close you are an all star.
Yeah, 10% conversion rate from cold numbers to f-close is about right, but it is higher if the girl gave you the number in a stimulated state and you moved really fast. It's also higher if you have oneitis, but I would never suggest going out to contract a case of oneitis simply to get laid more often.
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| Author: | Butler053 [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
Agree with most of the advice. The phone numbers I get from Online Sarging don't lead to as many dates as the women I meet in the field. Clearly typing/texting/phone calls make it more difficult to convey personality/suave/game. Try going to a pub or coffee shop to find HBs instead of Tinder or POF. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3 Numbers, 0 Pussy |
1 & 2 are definitely dead in the water. Not sure on #3. Sounds pretty flakey. Not sure if that's because of disinterest or she's just like that. |
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