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Author:  J.Daniels [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Motivation For Day Game?
Hi... basically my cold approaches are almost non-existant. I'm in excuse mode, I get all in my head, I assume rejection, I get lost for words... its been a while since I even tried a cold approach, and I've lost all motivation to even go out and do it.

Coaches that I pretty much religiously follow, lol:

1. Corey Wayne - He focuses on relationships, teaches you to remember that the women are just as important as you, but NOTHING is more important than your mission in life. Focuses on a lot more than the initial pickup, and doesn't have mental issues and think that black nail varnish and silly hats make you sexy.

2. Jason Capital - Complete asshole. He has a naughty schoolboy kind of attitude, Corey Wayne is a nice guy and Jason Capital is a complete prick; both work well, so I like to mix it up. Jason is like Adam Lyons actually, but I'd say he's quite a bit better, but most people find him obnoxious and over the top.

3. Adam Lyons - I found his work when I first got into PUA, as most people do, and sorry to be a sheep but I just genuinely think he's good. He gives a lot of good little tips. I wouldn't base my whole game on somebody like Adam Lyons, but he gives nice tips on things like how to deal with a cockblock.

I never go out at night, so you can see how daygame is essential to me, and NONE of those 3 make daygame videos - Corey Wayne isn't a PUA and doesn't make infield videos, Adam Lyons doesnt make infield videos anymore, Jason Capital only makes infield videos for paying customers. Somebody once suggested GoodLookingLoser, SimplePickup, SashaDayGame... nothing against those 3, but I feel like the style doesn't really match me. I'm more than sure that its just a motivation issue, and maybe learning some more stuff might motivate me to go out and try it? Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for your help, bro's ;)
Author:  J.Daniels [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
Bump... sorry :P
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
You seem like kind of a hard case. You probably have a lot mental barriers and sticking points.

Most guys start out with some type of gameplan they learned from some system, but quickly realize rejection still stings just as bad and that the game is not as easy as the pros make it seem. What you gotta' do is just loosen up a bit, but that will only come with field time. You have to go out and approach often.

I like simple pickup and gold jacket Luke for the simple fact that they don't give a fuck. It makes approaching and gaming so much easier, more relaxed, and more fun. What's your persona? Are you too serious? Can you be goofy and playful at all? Try doing that a little more and see if you loosen up a bit.
Author:  J.Daniels [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
If anything, I'd say I'm a little too playful, but I'm also shy (sometimes, if I've been out of action for a while) around new people, so it doesn't always come out. My game isn't bad at all, generally I'm definitely above average with women... I just flop with cold approaches. It's so annoying. If I actually KNOW a girl then I've got no problems (say if I wanted to escape the friendzone or something) ...a while back I did that Corey Wayne thing about saying "Hi" to 100 strangers, I think its on this forum too. That helped a lot and I got a few approaches done afterwards, but its been a while and I feel like I've forgotten it all. Thinking about it now, thats quite pathetic, its all in my head.
Author:  puaninja [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
Have you ever had a successful cold approach that led to a number close, instant date, kiss close, etc.?

The rejection and blow outs are an expected part of pick up, so I'm not sure if you are just unable to handle that, or if that's all you've ever experienced and you feel like whatever you are doing will never work.

Some people will tell you to approach anyone anywhere, but I usually tended to be more selective. I'd look for girls who looked single and approachable, or the ones who I felt I had some situational advantage in talking to. You don't have to go for 10s right away. Start with 6s and 7s since they won't usually have as much of a bitch shield and will be happy that a man is showing them attention. You'll get some good practice that way and confidence.
Author:  J.Daniels [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
Yea I've number closed from cold approaching a few times, it lead to sex a couple times too, but 90% of that was night-game. I don't do anything at night anymore...

I've always tried to treat all women the same. This would usually be at a party or somewhere where I already know people, but I like to start off gaming what you'd call a 6, then when I'm warmed up and social I'll bring an 8 into things and sort of play them off eachother.

The main things holding me back though, are that firstly I have to pretty much rebuild my social circle from scratch because I'm now unemployed and there was a huge fallout with me and my friends (that sounds like something you'd hear from a 12 year old girl lol, but it was genuinely serious) kind of hit me right in the confidence.

Its annoying because I've already proven to myself time and time again that it doesnt matter what the fuck you say to a girl, its HOW you say it... yet I still talk myself down in my head, telling myself that I can't think of a good enough opener so I shouldn't approach until I get more IOI's. That has always been an issue for me too, I've always needed more IOI's than most people before I'll approach. girl can be sat playing with her hair, checking me out, turned away from her friends, rubbing the back of her hand... I might not even realise until an hour later :D

I'm rambling a bit, but I basically feel like I'm back at square 1. I keep telling myself that I've forgotten everything I've learned, and that its useless unless I get some new friends and a job before I game again, so that I can do it at night... serious inner game issues. The sad thing is that I know better. If somebody were to challenge my game, I'd defend it and say that I know my stuff etc, but that changes when I'm around a girl (only recently, definitely)
Author:  puaninja [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
Forget the pre-emptive ioi's. You can't expect a girl to react to you before you've introduced yourself. If it happens, great, but don't wait for it.

Also, where are you sarging at normally? Do you do day game at particular places or are you just looking to start doing it in general?

Also, you have to have some kind of opener. It's part of gaming. And if you think that doesn't matter, then you better be talkative and have some good natural game. You have to start with opening the set, nothing else matters until you do that.

Let's say you are at a mini mall and you see a random hot girl standing by herself on the curb looking at her phone. How would you open that set?
Author:  J.Daniels [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Motivation For Day Game?
I know the opener is important, but its 90% how its said. I've opened girls by pretending I recognised them and turned it into a date (cowardly, when I first got into game, didn't even know what PUA stood for) ...communication is only 7% verbal, so I don't put too much effort into what I say, more how I say it, how I'm acting, what I'm conveying etc.

I usually do it in the mall, but its been a while (got a fuck buddy and got lazy)

If I was warmed up, feeling confident and had already opened a few other girls then I'd probably open with some kind of banter, how she was glaring at her phone as if she just got a text to tell her she was adopted, then I'd tell her everything will be ok and I'll look after her (in a purely sarcastic way, just for the sake of bringing kino in as early as possible and making her laugh)

If not, I'd probably just ask her opinion on something, then playfully disagree "you looked like you had better taste than that, I'm disappointed in you" kind of thing.
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