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Author:  Luhar [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:16 am ]
Post subject:  new guy can't close. ever.
what's up everyone?

I am 23 years old and am fairly new to the pick-up lifestyle community. I have done research on the topic in the past including reading from different sources and videos posted from different gurus online. I want to be more active within the community because I want to increase my success and sexual experiences with women. At 23 I want to be literally swimming in pussy.

I am good-looking and fit. I apply the concepts I have learned whenever I approach women. I generally don't have a problem approaching women or starting conversations and applying kino building techniques( touching, gazing, mirroring, etc.) My problem is that I too often put myself in the friend zone - I never close! I constantly find myself thinking, "I can't get sexual with this girl - that would be awkward for us," or "I don't want to offend her and ruin this friendship." <<< ridiculous, right?!

Any tips and advice to drop this sensitivity towards women and, to put it bluntly, think more with my dick? I need help following more sets all the way through by escalating until I close.

Let's save the, "Quit being a pussy, bro" "Maybe you're gay?!" "Got balls?" comments for another tread, thanks. :)
Author:  JackZero [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: new guy can't close. ever.
You know the problem, you just don't have enough desire to fix it. I just feel sorry for these women that you are giving the female equivalent to blue balls.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: new guy can't close. ever.
Obviously your worried about the outcome.

You seem to be afraid the girl will no longer like, or respect you.

Quite the opposite is true, that is why you keep getting lumped into the friend zone. No Follow through.

This can be very disappointing to a woman. It can make them feel unattractive.

This can end up giving you a negative status.

Now quit disappointing these poor girls, and ravage them.
Author:  irquas [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: new guy can't close. ever.
Yeah I'd agree that the main problem is you are worried about the outcome and afraid to risk whatever little you have. I was like that for years (before I started pick up).

Really the only way to fix that is to be OK with the potential loss and not be afraid to risk it. Think about it like this. If you don't escalate, then it's pretty close to 100% nothing will happen. Most girls (none in my real life experience) will make a move on you, even though a lot of them WANT you to escalate. If you do escalate to whatever is the next stage, one of two things will happen. Either she complies and you're fine to progress with escalation, or she doesn't, in which case you just continue like nothing happened AND try again soon.

So it's like many times in pickup - you go from a state where nothing is going to happen with 100% of the girls to a state where nothing is going to happen with less than 100% of the girls and something is going to happen with more than 0% of the girls. And as you do it you'll be surprised how many of the girls comply, even the first time.

Just do it in some kind of ladder, don't try to make out with the girl in the first minute if it's a date (I don't do much night game and from what I've read some people think that in a club that might make sense).
Author:  PeterJackhammer [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: new guy can't close. ever.
Quote:
Yeah I'd agree that the main problem is you are worried about the outcome and afraid to risk whatever little you have. I was like that for years (before I started pick up).

Really the only way to fix that is to be OK with the potential loss and not be afraid to risk it. Think about it like this. If you don't escalate, then it's pretty close to 100% nothing will happen. Most girls (none in my real life experience) will make a move on you, even though a lot of them WANT you to escalate. If you do escalate to whatever is the next stage, one of two things will happen. Either she complies and you're fine to progress with escalation, or she doesn't, in which case you just continue like nothing happened AND try again soon.

So it's like many times in pickup - you go from a state where nothing is going to happen with 100% of the girls to a state where nothing is going to happen with less than 100% of the girls and something is going to happen with more than 0% of the girls. And as you do it you'll be surprised how many of the girls comply, even the first time.

Just do it in some kind of ladder, don't try to make out with the girl in the first minute if it's a date (I don't do much night game and from what I've read some people think that in a club that might make sense).
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