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| Author: | JohnnyMaddick [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How to avoid sexual harassment claims? |
One of my buddies got drunk and made a move on a girl, nothing got out of it, but apparently he was overly persistent, and she accused him of sexual harassment with their college authorities. After that my friend has fears of making any move on a girl, to simply avoid legal issues. What do you do to prevent this from happening? Here is my take on this matter: Cut down on drinking goes without saying, but my friend has fears of making a move even if he is not drunk. Sexual harassment thing interferes a lot with the perseverance of a real alpha male. There's a gray area of her testing you and harassment. You can only learn to distinguish it with practice. But what do you do to practice? - you may ask. You make a move, you escalate, you persevere AND you always leave a way for a girl to simply walk away. If she can easily walk away and she doesn't, even if she verbally refuses, she is probably testing you. For example, if you decide to kiss her, keep your arms behind your back and just lean in. She can walk away, but if she stays she likes you. It is a very sensitive topic, especially in the US. With practice you will easily see and feel if a girl is into you and when to escalate, when she wants you. Before you get there, cover your ass, and always leave her a way to walk away easily. Remember, to always use your judgement, for that you must stay with clear mind. How do you protect yourself from sexual harassment accusations? |
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| Author: | APicKit [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to avoid sexual harassment claims? |
Sadly sometimes the simple fact of you being a dick carrying male is enough evidence for the jury. |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to avoid sexual harassment claims? |
Bullshit. The only way you'll be accused of sexual harassment and it's not your fault is if the girl is fucking batshit insane or had some seriously fucked up childhood being abused and/or molested and anything will freak her out. It happens, there's a few women out there who have simply heard stories and are freaked out but they'll generally drop some heavy hitting hints before you start anything with them. The only way you'll be done in for sexual harassment is if you can't take a hint. The only thing any guy needs to know is when a chick strictly says "No!" and isn't messing around about it and physically pushing you away then you've gone too far. This is why we wait for IOIs before we make a move and even at that you don't jump on the girl and shove your dick in her face. You tell her to give you a kiss. If she says no fair enough. Just keep it flirty and if she keeps throwing IOIs at you then try kiss her but if she backs away and gets annoyed just call it quits and hit on other women(I'm not touching tactics on how to get a girl jealous so she'll come to you, not on the topic of sexual harassment at least). Your instances of "making a move" are creepy dude. Putting your hands behind your back and then leaning in to kiss her? Leaving her an exit? What the fuck, dude? This situation shouldn't be present anyway! If you follow PUA you'll know that there are specific routes to take when you make a move and you generally only make a move when you're sure she's into you otherwise keep it flirty and let her come to you. What is it that pick up teaches you when you k-close a girl? This is the one thing that should stick: Isolate the girl; as in have her willingly move to another part of a club with you to get a drink or something else where you can kiss her when her friends and your friends aren't around. Her following you after you build up comfort and rapport is a clear sign she's into you. Randomly going to kiss a girl is forcing yourself on her. You need to lead up to it and back off when she says no. As for f-closing LMR pretty much covers that. Don't be pushy but come back to it after a few minutes. If she clearly isn't DTF then stop and take a nap or whatever. If you force yourself on a girl even if she wants to fuck your brains out but isn't ready that minute it's still rape/harassment. That's why we follow the rules to counter LMR. |
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