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Author:  blah1982 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  How much game is too much game?
Ok guys... Been learning for the past few months.

I take a very attractive 24 year old girl out Friday night. Put together everything I have learned. I knew half the people at the bar and they all came up and said hi to me; I had great kino escalation from what started off w pretty closed body language; by the end of the night I was holding her hand with one hand with the other hand between her legs; negged her playfully teased her using the bartender; even had some older guy come and Troy to blow up my date which I (and she) handled really well.

She called me "mr smooth guy" by the end of the night and commented on incredibly secure with myself I am.

I walk her back to her car and had a great makeout session. I pinned her against the car and she was trying to push me away with her arms but continued to sensually make out with me (weak LMR).One of the benefits of being I. Really good shape... I could hold my position and hold her in position and continue to sensually make out with her with ease while she tried to push me away. It was a lot of fun - for both of us I think! Got my hands down her pants grabbing her bear ass... She put the breaks on it when I went for the promised land (real LMR).

So I don't get her back to my place. I texted her Saturday morning giving her some shit but also telling her that enjoyed the entire evening and that I looked forward to seeing her again. No response.

First, wtf happened here? Did I overdo it here?

Second This girls is well educated, relatively cool, hit and young. I'd like not to lose her. What do I do ?
Author:  Versalis [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
I wouldn't generally suggest rubbing her pussy in a parking lot unless you plan to fuck her in the parking lot(and you think she's up for that). You really don't want to get a girl really wet until you're alone and can actually have sex.
Getting her turned on outside of a car, and then riding to your house, even if it's two miles away is usually going to kill her arousal. And girls often get weird when they get turned on and then nothing happens.
Author:  Clocks [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
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I wouldn't generally suggest rubbing her pussy in a parking lot unless you plan to fuck her in the parking lot(and you think she's up for that). You really don't want to get a girl really wet until you're alone and can actually have sex.
Oh wow mind expanding on that? I've rubbed girls pussies through jeans and the occasional fingering when we're out and not fucked (because we're too far from anywhere to fuck). Is this bad?
Author:  hugge [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
Lol. You guys (original poster as well as comments) seem to lack one important skill here - how to read the situation. :)

Anyway, "blah1982", you probably went too far too soon with that girl. She feels offended now, I guess. There is no going back there, unless you give her a proper apology and she accepts it. However, even if she does, you have a lot to prove right now, and that will take TIME! Are you willing to put all that effort for her sake? She has to be your "true love" so to speak to do such a thing, and you should aim for an LTR. Otherwise, start looking elsewhere.
Author:  blah1982 [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
Sweet. So I lost my last girl for not being aggressive enough and being too needy, and I lose this girl for being overly aggressive and alpha.

This sucks.
Author:  Versalis [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
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I wouldn't generally suggest rubbing her pussy in a parking lot unless you plan to fuck her in the parking lot(and you think she's up for that). You really don't want to get a girl really wet until you're alone and can actually have sex.
Oh wow mind expanding on that? I've rubbed girls pussies through jeans and the occasional fingering when we're out and not fucked (because we're too far from anywhere to fuck). Is this bad?
It's bad if you want to sleep with her that night. Once she cools down on the ride over there, she may stay cool.
Author:  dtrak [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
Actually, thats a very good question, how much game is too much game?
In this particular scenario your failure to understand the bigger picture and thinking you need game is what ultimately resulted in your imminent doom, lol.

You just need to understand girls like sex and will have it if you simply, take her out, show her a goodtime, connect genuinely, and escalate accordingly, then lead and close. Its expected. If you do that right and she doesnt fuck you(assuming your a cool clean guy), she has issues.

What I would have done in your situation is what I mentioned above and enstead of an awkward make out and ass grabbing at the end , I would have been flirty throughout the date, escalating my conversation so she can kind of feel what I want , be very man to woman so at the end she expects something to happen, a goodtime combined with flirting,kinky compliments will garantee she will be wanting it, and at the end maybe a makeout depending on how intense and spontaneous you want to be and a simply leading question "my place for drinks? ;)" Done.

Very simply non gimmicky bullshit. People have been getting laid for years doin that. Game now adays is more about building your overall confidence and understanding women and simply seeing the reality that has been around for thousands of years. Becoming a master of yourself.
Author:  sugarwallz616 [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
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Sweet. So I lost my last girl for not being aggressive enough and being too needy, and I lose this girl for being overly aggressive and alpha.

This sucks.

We have all been there and done that a few times I am sure.

i recently went through something similar to this and i will admit it sucks knowing you messed up but not quite sure what you did.

One thing i will suggest is when getting in contact, don't talk to the girl everyday. I set days in which i contact girls that I am interested in.

I'd give her a little bit of time, about a half of week or so and try again. Women are so emotionally arbitrary that they decide that one day they don't like you and then the next day they really want to talk to you.

Even if you are very fond of them, you need to wait and "sweat it out", this is advice that a girl gave me so you can take it however you will.
Author:  blah1982 [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
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Sweet. So I lost my last girl for not being aggressive enough and being too needy, and I lose this girl for being overly aggressive and alpha.

This sucks.

We have all been there and done that a few times I am sure.

i recently went through something similar to this and i will admit it sucks knowing you messed up but not quite sure what you did.

One thing i will suggest is when getting in contact, don't talk to the girl everyday. I set days in which i contact girls that I am interested in.

I'd give her a little bit of time, about a half of week or so and try again. Women are so emotionally arbitrary that they decide that one day they don't like you and then the next day they really want to talk to you.

Even if you are very fond of them, you need to wait and "sweat it out", this is advice that a girl gave me so you can take it however you will.
I think that is good advice, generally speaking.
Author:  GamesSN [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
If she's pushing you back physically don't force her into it. It comes across as rapey which will most likely make her too afraid to continue things if you seem like you're going to do something whether she likes it or not. Try gently pushing against her so your between her legs so she can feel your hard on then kiss her passionately. Get her in the mood and then bring her back to yours. That's where you can open those golden gates and enter nirvana once, of course, she's permitting.

As a general rule if a chick is physically pushing you away you don't counter that by being more forceful. What do we teach when it comes to LMR? Back off and try again later, ease her into it. Don't force her into it.
Author:  blah1982 [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
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If she's pushing you back physically don't force her into it. It comes across as rapey which will most likely make her too afraid to continue things if you seem like you're going to do something whether she likes it or not. Try gently pushing against her so your between her legs so she can feel your hard on then kiss her passionately. Get her in the mood and then bring her back to yours. That's where you can open those golden gates and enter nirvana once, of course, she's permitting.

As a general rule if a chick is physically pushing you away you don't counter that by being more forceful. What do we teach when it comes to LMR? Back off and try again later, ease her into it. Don't force her into it.
Oops. LOL. Didn't mean to make her think I am a rapist. That's pretty bad. She was still kissing me back and her efforts to push me off of her were pretty weak. Really weak, actually. I think she was enjoying the "I don't want him to know that I am liking him kissing me like this, but I really DO want him to kiss me like", but maybe I am just totally off.

But I get it. I played it wrong with her. Should have been a simple good night kiss, maybe a little more, and then a second date, which doesn't seem like it will be happening now. She probably feels like I made her into a slut and she doesn't want to be thought of as just a sex toy - which is probably how I made her feel at the end of the night, especially with all the heavily sexual kino leading up to it. That's my guess. She even said something to the effect of "I have to at least pretend to be prude" at the end of the whole thing.
Author:  blah1982 [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much game is too much game?
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Lol. You guys (original poster as well as comments) seem to lack one important skill here - how to read the situation. :)

Anyway, "blah1982", you probably went too far too soon with that girl. She feels offended now, I guess. There is no going back there, unless you give her a proper apology and she accepts it. However, even if she does, you have a lot to prove right now, and that will take TIME! Are you willing to put all that effort for her sake? She has to be your "true love" so to speak to do such a thing, and you should aim for an LTR. Otherwise, start looking elsewhere.
This was correct. I texted her a proper apology last night - no response.

Damn man. Lesson learned and case closed.
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