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Author:  Mad_Hatter [ Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  In the pursuit of threesomes in an unusual situation

I'm going to try to keep this short with the least amount of melodrama I think I can communicate the situation with. It is 100% true and I'm not here to brag or troll any B.S. like that I just want some validation and to know that I'm not chasing something ridiculously impossible and maybe some advice.

-Very attractive, in decent shape, 6'3"
-Professional career in a well known company
-Can successfully online game and have done so for a threesome in the past, despite being introverted as hell in person.
-My bisexual girlfriend is 110% on board with this and has been so already, both for her own happiness and mine. She knows about my PUA and the whole situation inside and out. I am so into this and her I don't even want 1 on 1 sex with a girl anymore unless she's involved in some way. She is my soulmate and we are pretty much married without being so (I will probably change this in the near future. I can't really imagine another woman that can get me or make me as happy as she does.

The bad stuff: she has had health issues in the past requiring multiple surgeries due to physical issues centered around the areas of the womb and gall bladder. She looks great and is functional with medication but is completely dependent on me for everything (driving, income, insurance) due to the issues and chronic pain management.

We cannot have regular sex due to pelvic floor issues and I'm too big for her (seriously it is a thing and she is trying to use dilators and other practices recommended by sex therapists but it has been many months with little sucess. I can get her off by other methods and she me so it's not a travesty by any means but I'm sure you can imagine how this can leave certain things unsatisfying on a basic level). Obviously we are going for a more expedient solution for both our happiness on one level. The other level is we don't like being that vanilla and also she wants it rough but can only handle it being very delicate and therefore extra frustration for me in being delicate all the time.

The thing is, most women see threesomes as something that can't be serious and deservedly so in most cases I guess. However I can easily take care of two women and we are actually looking for a girl we're both happy with to have a LTR with. Obviously the PUA school says I shouldn't put limiters on the situation like that and go hit endless one night stands but I'm hoping to get more out of it to get to the happiness both she and I want. It is more than just the sex as I really enjoy the actual dating of two women at once and seeing them together, conversations etc.

We have had a girlfriend for a couple of weeks before and a couple of one night stands over a long period of time of trying. We parted amicably with them after their short term interest was sated.

I am interested lately in getting back on the horse again and will be putting myself out there as single and filtering for bisexual girls only and bringing this up after I have their interest. It's not so much the how of it I want advice for but rather looking for people that may have had similar experience, especially with the regular GF vs. one night stand part of it...have you pulled it off...did you feel it was worth it long term etc.

Advice on the how is great too but I have mainly found it is just like regular PUA for online anyway as I'm (mostly) terrible in true PUA in person as I'm highly introverted naturally. If I have a strong online opening I find it easy in person from there however and have no trouble closing as I've already made a connection with the girl. If the girl is bisexual and seems adventurous it's not a hard sell as my GF is really attractive and pretty much bisexual/bicurious catnip.

You can call me crazy or greedy or a villain or whatever and it's somewhat true I guess but also I'm just trying to make the best of an extreme situation without giving up the girl I love or leaving her and throwing her to the financial/medical wolves or living in a (albeit partially) celibate situation.

Author:  WillEdward [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the pursuit of threesomes in an unusual situation

I have an idea of your situation but what is your exact question?

Author:  Mad_Hatter [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the pursuit of threesomes in an unusual situation

Quote:
I have an idea of your situation but what is your exact question?
I'm hoping to promote a bit of discussion on this as well as just get my questions answered, maybe there already is a thread about it somewhere else but:

-Have you had experience with an actual threeway LTR. Any regrets or things you would have done differently? This is really the main question as I'm interested in any differences between one night stands for this and consequences/benefits of an actual LTR with two women that are also into each other.

I'm always trying to improve so also:

-Do you feel including the other girl way up front to the new girl is better or worse for your game? I feel it is worse. This could easily apply to an online profile/opener or real life early conversation. Obviously it's a tough and strange sell and would work better in a club scenario. We've also talked about actually hitting on the chick together but I feel that has a strong backfire potential and it is better for me to take lead and bring it up to the new girl later which I have done with demonstrable results.

-If you have opened with this kind of thing what was your method? As I have said I have strong online game and basically open normally that I'm single but I filter for only bi chicks. This is much tougher in person and we have even discussed her dancing with the girl etc to sess it out and bring her back to my table. The problem with this is the girl may be more interested in her than me and we're being cognizant of trying to equalize things or bring it my way (yes she loves me that much to do this) to have greater overall success with the sort of happiness we're trying to reach. It's weird to put yourself into DHV competition with your own girlfriend but that's kind of how I think about it with the dancing -> table method.

We have only rarely tried real life methods of this type because I have noticed when girls are the aggressor from a bisexual/lesbian standpoint they not only now must operate under the same rules we do, they have the added complexity of figuring out whether the girl is bi in the first place. We've talked about just hitting some girl up left shoulder right shoulder and laying out our mutual attraction for her. We're attractive and pleasant enough to get away with these things in a club situation but we're very leery of trying anything like this outside of those kind of venues. This is why I feel the 'I'm a regular single guy' approach makes it easier and even gives comfort and internal permission to the more bicurious or inexperienced bisexual type of girl which method I have been successful with.

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