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| Author: | Hint [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | does this happen to you guys... |
unattractive girls (girls your not interested in for w.e reason) jump on me to much... i dont want to be rude to them. girls with in a social circle at parties or w.e. but im truly not interested. are they just being nice.. or am i doing something that makes them have some sort of attraction for me. ive once told a girl straight out that i didnt find her attractive, two days later she was ontop of me grabbing my cock telling me to suck her tits.. i felt really uncomfortable..and i feel uncomfortable when unattractive girls act nice towards me. how do you guys deal with this.. ive always played along with it, but i think its time for a stop to this madness ive told a girl i thought i was gay just to get her to stop showing interest in me.. its gotten that bad |
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| Author: | Bud_Henry [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
So, you feel like a woman when an afc doesn't get the hint? |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
So, you're saying you get hit on by desperate and unattractive women? Or you get hit on women who you personally don't find attractive? If it's the former then i've got bad news for you: You're low value, bro. These ugos go after you because they see you as attainable. So you must have very low social value to be hit on by these ugly chicks for them to entertain the thought of being able to get you(When they're of lower value presumably). Think about it: Have you ever been out and not felt on your game or felt you weren't worthy of a HB but seen a 5 and thought "I could have her"? Yeah, that's what you're basically saying is happening here except the tables are reversed; chicks see you as that guy anyone can get and go for it. Either work on your social value or improve your looks 'cause that isn't a good quality and, from my own observations, having specifically ugly chicks jump your junk doesn't impress HBs... |
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| Author: | Hint [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: So, you feel like a woman when an afc doesn't get the hint?
no, i feel like a man who every women wants.
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| Author: | Hint [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: So, you're saying you get hit on by desperate and unattractive women? Or you get hit on women who you personally don't find attractive?
I'm not sure if they are desperate, I do know I'm not attracted to them, physically.If it's the former then i've got bad news for you: You're low value, bro. These ugos go after you because they see you as attainable. So you must have very low social value to be hit on by these ugly chicks for them to entertain the thought of being able to get you(When they're of lower value presumably). Think about it: Have you ever been out and not felt on your game or felt you weren't worthy of a HB but seen a 5 and thought "I could have her"? Yeah, that's what you're basically saying is happening here except the tables are reversed; chicks see you as that guy anyone can get and go for it. Either work on your social value or improve your looks 'cause that isn't a good quality and, from my own observations, having specifically ugly chicks jump your junk doesn't impress HBs... As for the social value, I'm not really sure what that is. Is it about money? Having a job? Things like that? If so then your right I probably do have low social value cuz I have none of that. I have financial problems so what? I really don't care what people think about me when it comes to things like that. no I do not look at a 5 and say I could have her. I look at a 10 and say I want her. Why would I settle for less when I know I can settle for more. Probably the reason for my financial problems lol... But that's another topic . You guys are telling me that you don't have this happen to you at all? Like I said I usually just play along even after giving them the hint and setting the frame of "just friends" and start doing my own thing. |
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| Author: | Hint [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
It's not specifically ugly chicks that jump on my junk. I'm just asking how to deal with it when i do have someone I'm not attracted to continuously try to flirt with me and try and get to know me. |
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| Author: | Hint [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: So, you feel like a woman when an afc doesn't get the hint?
Actually now that I think about it, yes this is exactly how I feel . Haha
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| Author: | oceanx [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Just tell the girls firmly "I'm not interested in you in that way." In the meantime, start approaching more of the quality of girls that you want in your life. |
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| Author: | TheGameSays [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Your social value isn't dependent on whether or not you have money, a good career, or any of that. When you see an astoundingly hot girl at the bar, you know everyone wants her. Mostly due to her looks at this point. However, if you see this same girl at the bar, not dressed to impressed and looking miserable, you tend to overlook her. High social value will put you as somebody who has a lot of friends, and you aren't a loner. Whereas LOW social value makes you look like the loner. Again, you appear to be attainable by girls you don't find attractive, because nobody else seems interested. [The hot chicks.] We gravitate towards people of high status. High Social Value (high status) people don’t care what others think of them. These people can be alone in a new social situation and feel comfortable. They are confident, have high self-esteem and are comfortable in almost any social situation For example: In a bar, an attractive woman has high social value, because she is the one in control. Guys may come up and buy her drinks because they are seeking her approval. If she rejects them, they feel bad. She controls how they feel, making the guys low social value. Low Social Value Low Social Value (low status) people feel the need for people to like them. They need other people’s approval and validation. They are needy and cling onto high status people like leeches. Most shy people fall into this category. That’s why you probably like to hang around people who are more popular than you. You are almost trying to get some of their popularity. You see them as being a valuable friend to have, because they are a “step” up. Low status people are “reactive”. They react to what other people say about them. They need people to like and approve of them. Their whole state of mind depends on what other people think of them - Credit: http://stopyourshyness.com/blog/social-value-explained/ The cues of demonstrating high social value are found in the way you portray yourself. Your ability to make eye contact, your body language... If you appear to be nervous or unapproachable, you won't get anywhere. The tone in your voice when you speak. --- Before I got into reading up a lot on Pick Up, I looked to the internet as my get away from my anti-social world. Because I felt that my "game" was better when I wasn't put under the limelight. I couldn't trip over my text, if I felt it wasn't right, I could immediately take it back before I sent my message. However, I still demonstrated low social value because of these few mistakes: - It was always just ME in my profile picture. Whether it was a selfie taken in the bathroom, or somewhere in my house, and they all seemed to be the same. This screamed out "this guy doesn't do anything fun!" - My profile picture would remain the same. Almost as if I never went on the website in general; even though I was posting. - I was ALWAYS available to talk. Instantaneously replying to any girl who sent a message back to me. Screaming out "sure, I MIGHT be doing something, but I'm not DOING something. I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser just waiting for someone to throw themselves at me." Ultimately... It finally did happen. Only... It wasn't the girls I wished would throw themselves at me. I started getting messages from girls who would read my profile and pretend to do the same thing I do to women now. Catch a few things they post on their page, try to relate, and start a conversation. At first I was so baffled that my efforts were "finally paying off" that I went through with a few lays on these chicks. Finally... I said "what the fuck am I doing? I know I'm better than this, and I see these average dudes pulling hot chicks all the time... What makes me so different!?" I studied their profiles as if they were a female I was interested in. I seen these patterns and did more research - which brought me to the world of pick up anyways. Google searching during any of my free time, ways to improve my online dating, my real life interactions, etc. So do I still have these chicks I'm not attracted to messaging me? Yes. They'll usually always be the ones who are initiating the conversation. HOWEVER, do I get more replies from the girls I express MY interest in now that I've added some sort of value to my online profiles? Absolutely. How does this effect me at a party or in real life situations? Easy. Much like I spiffed up my profile to be warming to the eye, I've studied the profiles of the successful men and realized... I need to stop with the band shirts when I go out and dress like I'm someone people should give a shit about. Even if it's a plain black T-Shirt, I've had 80% better success when taking a keen interest in my appearance before going out. This includes my attitude, loosening up, all of my "to do's" before I go out, that make me feel like I'm going to have, not only a successful, but ultimately, a fun night! So when I go out I'm smiling, laughing, joking around, not fucking off on my phone too much, and socializing with the people around me. Demonstrating that I am interesting and have something to say; opposed to sitting in the corner with a drink and weeping. |
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: So, you're saying you get hit on by desperate and unattractive women? Or you get hit on women who you personally don't find attractive?
You're talking out of your ass. Please refrain from comment if you have no clue as to what you're saying.
If it's the former then i've got bad news for you: You're low value, bro. These ugos go after you because they see you as attainable. So you must have very low social value to be hit on by these ugly chicks for them to entertain the thought of being able to get you(When they're of lower value presumably). Think about it: Have you ever been out and not felt on your game or felt you weren't worthy of a HB but seen a 5 and thought "I could have her"? Yeah, that's what you're basically saying is happening here except the tables are reversed; chicks see you as that guy anyone can get and go for it. Either work on your social value or improve your looks 'cause that isn't a good quality and, from my own observations, having specifically ugly chicks jump your junk doesn't impress HBs... |
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: Your social value isn't dependent on whether or not you have money, a good career, or any of that. When you see an astoundingly hot girl at the bar, you know everyone wants her. Mostly due to her looks at this point. However, if you see this same girl at the bar, not dressed to impressed and looking miserable, you tend to overlook her. Most guys go to online dating to escape approach anxiety. If a girl doesn't respond to their message the guy can rationalize it away as not being rejection (e.g., she had so many messages she didn't see mine, it was what i said etc..).
High social value will put you as somebody who has a lot of friends, and you aren't a loner. Whereas LOW social value makes you look like the loner. Again, you appear to be attainable by girls you don't find attractive, because nobody else seems interested. [The hot chicks.] We gravitate towards people of high status. High Social Value (high status) people don’t care what others think of them. These people can be alone in a new social situation and feel comfortable. They are confident, have high self-esteem and are comfortable in almost any social situation For example: In a bar, an attractive woman has high social value, because she is the one in control. Guys may come up and buy her drinks because they are seeking her approval. If she rejects them, they feel bad. She controls how they feel, making the guys low social value. Low Social Value Low Social Value (low status) people feel the need for people to like them. They need other people’s approval and validation. They are needy and cling onto high status people like leeches. Most shy people fall into this category. That’s why you probably like to hang around people who are more popular than you. You are almost trying to get some of their popularity. You see them as being a valuable friend to have, because they are a “step” up. Low status people are “reactive”. They react to what other people say about them. They need people to like and approve of them. Their whole state of mind depends on what other people think of them - Credit: http://stopyourshyness.com/blog/social-value-explained/ The cues of demonstrating high social value are found in the way you portray yourself. Your ability to make eye contact, your body language... If you appear to be nervous or unapproachable, you won't get anywhere. The tone in your voice when you speak. --- Before I got into reading up a lot on Pick Up, I looked to the internet as my get away from my anti-social world. Because I felt that my "game" was better when I wasn't put under the limelight. I couldn't trip over my text, if I felt it wasn't right, I could immediately take it back before I sent my message. However, I still demonstrated low social value because of these few mistakes: - It was always just ME in my profile picture. Whether it was a selfie taken in the bathroom, or somewhere in my house, and they all seemed to be the same. This screamed out "this guy doesn't do anything fun!" - My profile picture would remain the same. Almost as if I never went on the website in general; even though I was posting. - I was ALWAYS available to talk. Instantaneously replying to any girl who sent a message back to me. Screaming out "sure, I MIGHT be doing something, but I'm not DOING something. I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser just waiting for someone to throw themselves at me." Ultimately... It finally did happen. Only... It wasn't the girls I wished would throw themselves at me. I started getting messages from girls who would read my profile and pretend to do the same thing I do to women now. Catch a few things they post on their page, try to relate, and start a conversation. At first I was so baffled that my efforts were "finally paying off" that I went through with a few lays on these chicks. Finally... I said "what the fuck am I doing? I know I'm better than this, and I see these average dudes pulling hot chicks all the time... What makes me so different!?" I studied their profiles as if they were a female I was interested in. I seen these patterns and did more research - which brought me to the world of pick up anyways. Google searching during any of my free time, ways to improve my online dating, my real life interactions, etc. So do I still have these chicks I'm not attracted to messaging me? Yes. They'll usually always be the ones who are initiating the conversation. HOWEVER, do I get more replies from the girls I express MY interest in now that I've added some sort of value to my online profiles? Absolutely. How does this effect me at a party or in real life situations? Easy. Much like I spiffed up my profile to be warming to the eye, I've studied the profiles of the successful men and realized... I need to stop with the band shirts when I go out and dress like I'm someone people should give a shit about. Even if it's a plain black T-Shirt, I've had 80% better success when taking a keen interest in my appearance before going out. This includes my attitude, loosening up, all of my "to do's" before I go out, that make me feel like I'm going to have, not only a successful, but ultimately, a fun night! So when I go out I'm smiling, laughing, joking around, not fucking off on my phone too much, and socializing with the people around me. Demonstrating that I am interesting and have something to say; opposed to sitting in the corner with a drink and weeping. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: Most guys go to online dating to escape approach anxiety.
And that's just fine w/ me. Just means more opportunities for guys who choose see the world as it is not how they wish it was, and who have the balls to lay it on the line IRL.
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
Quote: Quote: Most guys go to online dating to escape approach anxiety.
And that's just fine w/ me. Just means more opportunities for guys who choose see the world as it is not how they wish it was, and who have the balls to lay it on the line IRL. |
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| Author: | TheGameSays [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
You're right. That's pretty much what I said I believe. My reasoning was that my "game" was better online, simply because I wouldn't be stumbling over my words or blabbering. I could think a message through before I sent it; and by doing so, I had a sense of relief. Unlike some, though, the better I got at picking up women online - the more I believed in my ability to turn it into real life interactions. Since then, I've greatly improved my real life game. Now I balance the two, with more success in real life than online now. |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: does this happen to you guys... |
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I'm not sure if they are desperate, I do know I'm not attracted to them, physically.
Ugly women generally don't hit on me. The only time i've had a chick that wasn't super hot(Although I wouldn't say "ugly" just not that attractive) hit on me was a Plus Size Model. She was crazy and very forward but very confident and comfortable in herself.As for the social value, I'm not really sure what that is. Is it about money? Having a job? Things like that? If so then your right I probably do have low social value cuz I have none of that. I have financial problems so what? I really don't care what people think about me when it comes to things like that. no I do not look at a 5 and say I could have her. I look at a 10 and say I want her. Why would I settle for less when I know I can settle for more. Probably the reason for my financial problems lol... But that's another topic . You guys are telling me that you don't have this happen to you at all? Like I said I usually just play along even after giving them the hint and setting the frame of "just friends" and start doing my own thing. http://www.pualingo.com/social-value/ Social value is very important. The higher it is the more impressive you are. The more impressive you are the more sought after you are and the more sought after you are the more intimidating you are which means people of low self-esteem and low confidence will be more intimidated by you and much less likely to approach you. Generally people who are out of shape or aren't seen as attractive have low confidence and self-esteem and they won't approach someone who has high value. On the flip side the more valued you are the more confidence is required by someone in order to approach you and a reflection of this confidence would be how high their social value is. Basically what i'm saying is if you're getting hit on a lot by people who aren't attractive you must be lower value to them in order for them to freely approach you and do as you say they do. n2thevoid, how exactly am I talking through my ass? |
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