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| Author: | gatekrasher [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Touching Levels |
One of the guys that was reading my book (amazon.com/dp/B00L1WNFIA) asked me this question: Question: Why should I always try to sit next to the girl during a date (instead of opposite her)? This is what i came up with, however I would appreciate any input that you guys have. I am sure a lot of people on here are much more experienced than me in this area. Answer: Touching plays a very important role in seduction. Correct use of touch will not only significantly speed up your journey to her vagina, but will also decrease the likelihood of failure. There are essentially 5 levels of touch: 1. Momentary touch (e.g. kiss on the cheek or briefly touching arm / leg / shoulder). 2. Prolonged touch (e.g. holding hands, placing hand on hand / arm / leg for a period of time). 3. Kiss (i.e. brief kiss). 4. Make-out (i.e. prolonged French kissing). 5. Sex There is no real difference between touching an arm and touching her vagina; it is all skin-to-skin contact and the difference is only a perception in the mind. The more you touch the target the more comfortable she will become with you touching her. You goal is to move through the levels and reach the 5th, as soon as possible, without making the target uncomfortable. If you move too slowly, the seduction can take too long and has a greater chance of failure. If you move too fast you may trigger the target's defence shields, which can result in negative progress or outright failure. It is important not to skip levels (i.e. don't try to go straight from 'momentary touch' to a 'kiss'). Only progress to the next level when the target feels comfortable at the level you are at (e.g. only try to kiss her once she is comfortable holding your hand). Touching must begin as soon as you have the target in isolation. If you met online, touching should begin as soon as you say 'Hi', in person, for the first time (e.g. by kissing her on the cheek, while holding her waist, as you greet her). If you are in a club, isolate the target from the friends, so that you are left one-on-one and commence touching. Level 1 moves should generally be in the form of quick touches with your hand of her arm, shoulder or leg as you joke, tease or neg her. It is a good idea to combine all negs with brief touches, because the positive emotions that usually come from touching compensate the negative emotions that usually come from negs and teasing (thus creating a push / pull effect that manifests attraction). After successfully performing numerous Level 1 momentary touches (e.g. within the first 20-30 minutes of talking in isolation) attempt to move to Level 2: prolonged touch. One of the easiest ways to do this is to say 'Show me your hand' and then read her palm while holding her hand in your hand. If you don't know how to read palms, then research this on the Internet. It won't take long to memorise a simple 5 minute palm reading routine. If you are too stupid or lazy to learn palm reading, then just take her hand, look at it (while holding), touch it with your fingers and make obvious observations. Is her skin soft and smooth, or rough? Is the shape of her palm square or rectangular? Are her fingers long or short? Is her index finger longer than her ring finger? If the ring finger is longer, that's a sign of good fertility (boost of estrogen prenatally). If it is not, it suggests she is more masculine (tease her about this). Notice that doing this while sitting across from someone can be very difficult. Level 1 momentary touches and Level 2 palm reading are best implemented while sitting next to the target on soft seating in a relatively quiet area. Hence why you should never schedule dates at cafes or restaurants (before you have sex at least once) and instead schedule them at lounge bars, where you can sit together on a sofa and get drunk. Alcohol further simplifies the task. The more she drinks the better. Even a few glasses of wine can make a huge difference. Once you reach Level 2 it is important to cement it, so that you can comfortably move to the next level. You can suggest going to walk somewhere; to a new venue or to a new location within an existing venue. While you walk, hold her hand. The longer your walk, the better (e.g. loops around the club if you have to) since you will get to hold her hand for a longer period of time. Try to interlock your fingers with hers after a while. If the target is comfortable holding hands with you for a prolonged period of time, then it is time to kiss her (i.e. Level 3). The easiest way to kiss someone is to first get them to close their eyes and imagine something. You run a canned visualisation routine or just get her to imagine her ideal holiday getaway, her future house, your cock in her mouth, whatever. Hold her hand while she is imagining stuff with her eyes closed. After she does this, talk to her for a few minutes then say, 'Now close your eyes again.' She will usually comply. Now kiss her! Some girls refuse to close their eyes and generally don't cooperate. In this case, just get close while holding her hand, look into her eyes, lean in and kiss her. If she pulls away, ask her what's wrong, touch her some more and try again in 15-30 minutes. Cement Level 3 by kissing every 10-15 minutes throughout the conversation. Once she is comfortable with this, move to Level 4: passionately making out using the tongue. Generally it is best to get to Level 3 on the first date. If you don't, there is a good chance the second date won't happen. The same goes for nightclubs: if you don't kiss her the first time you meet her, it is very likely that she will flake when you try to call her to schedule a first date. If you haven't already, you should most certainly kiss her, the second time you meet her in person. If you don't then you're seduction plan will probably go down the toilet, as the target will think you're a pathetic coward. It is important to NOT activate erogenous zones at this stage (i.e. do not touch breasts, ass and pussy). You don't want to make her horny, but rather build comfort and attraction and get her to emotionally invest in you. If you start groping her, later on, she will probably feel like a slut, think you're a sleazy guy 'only after one thing' and flake on you. Progression to Level 5 should be made at a seduction venue while alone (e.g. at your place or at her place). Soften up the target's defences with alcohol. Seduction of a sober girl is possible, much more difficult. Why make things hard for yourself? A shared bottle of wine will triple your chances of success. One of the easiest ways to transition from Level 4 to Level 5 is to watch a movie together (in isolation at your place) while drinking alcohol. This kills three birds with one stone (1) she becomes comfortable being at your place and stops freaking about the possibility that you will pull your cock out at any moment (2) she gets drunks thus weakening her defences (3) she becomes sexually aroused from the constant touching. During the movie you should be touching the whole time. Start out by holding hands. Then you can hug her, wrap your arms around her as she leans on you or have her lie on your shoulder. Make sure to pass the target her drink regularly (if required) to remind her that she should be drinking. Cement Level 4 by having several make-out sessions throughout the movie. At this point, you can start gently activating erogenous: soft touching of breasts and ass (but don't touch the pussy yet). Generally, it is not a good idea to wait until the end of the movie to pull the cock: she will expect that and it may be awkward. Surprise her! Girls love surprises! Towards the end of the movie (but before the end) commence making out, and then move from kissing her neck to her breasts. Pull down (take off) her top and lick her nipples. Spread her legs and feel up her clit and vagina hole; eventually inserting your fingers. Then move to the bedroom and fuck her. Another good way to transition from Level 4 to Level 5 is to get her drunk while sitting on the balcony and then suggest a massage (after pointing out how tight her shoulders are). Girls love massages. If you don't know how to do massages, then learn. It is not that hard. If you are too stupid or lazy to learn independently then go and get one done at a salon and then copy what they do. Massage should start on the lower / upper back and then move to the neck and shoulders. It is good to use oil on an exposed back, however do one with her clothed if she is not comfortable with taking her shirt off. After that, flip her over. Her bra should be undone already so just pull away that shit, exposing her breasts (if not, then take it off now). Massage her upper shoulders and boobs. Then take her pants off; panties off; etc. (cunnilingus optional). Levels 1 and 2 touching form the foundation of successful fast seduction. Moving from Level 1 to 5 should ideally take 1-2 meetings; 3-4 in the worst case scenario. If you don't sit next to target during the date, then you will not effectively cement the foundation of Levels 1 and 2. This can really fuck you up. Not only will seduction be much slower but it can fail altogether. Most women are much like cowardly sheep. They are afraid to make decision, afraid of taking responsibility, afraid that others will think of them in a negative away, afraid of intimacy with 'strange' men, etc. Much like a sheep, scaring off a woman and making her 'run for the hills' is incredibly easy. The longer you dick around with your seduction, the more likely that she will change her mind about you and bail. The reasons for failure can be numerous: she can meet someone else, you can make a mistake, she can get a 'feeling' or 'intuition' that it 'won't work out in the long run', 'you are not right for her', 'we don't have enough in common', etc. All women think that they have a very developed intuition, and thus are great at foreseeing the future and making decision. In truth this is a load of horseshit. Good decisions are made using the correct interpretation of facts and from experience. Women are too emotional and lack logical thinking, and thus are terrible at correctly interpreting facts. They also, generally, lack dating experience. What does this amount to? This amounts to them making dating decisions based on imaginary nonsense and perceived boolshit. For this reason a seduction can fail at any point, because a woman's idiot brain 'perceives' something is not right. Moving to Level 5 as soon as possible is critical. After she is having sex with you, she may worry that others will think she is a slut if she doesn't keep seeing you; so she will usually try to keep seeing you. Sex is also a very strong emotional investment which negates the likelihood of flaking. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Touching Levels |
Number 1 isn't in any way, shape or form necessary. And if you need a guide, I'd suggest not doing it. This is where new guys consistently weird girls out. Is #1 fine? Yes. When you're socially normal and used to touching people. But when executed as part of your "kino routine", it doesn't serve to enhance comfort, it ends up being a roadblock. If you need a guide for touching, skip straight to step two. |
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| Author: | gatekrasher [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Touching Levels |
Quote: Number 1 isn't in any way, shape or form necessary.
And if you need a guide, I'd suggest not doing it. This is where new guys consistently weird girls out. Is #1 fine? Yes. When you're socially normal and used to touching people. But when executed as part of your "kino routine", it doesn't serve to enhance comfort, it ends up being a roadblock. If you need a guide for touching, skip straight to step two. interesting point. i agree that #1 is not particurly important but i thought it helps with a smooth transition into #2. i thought that a girl would be more comfortable holdng your hand if you already touched her a few times before that. anyway you may be right. i shall experiment skipping #1 and jumping straight to #2 and comparing the results to not skipping #1. but you do agree that you should sit next to her on a date? or is it better to sit opposite the girl on a date? |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Touching Levels |
Stand and sit as close to her as possible. Fleeting little taps don't really matter. What matters is sustained proximity and especially contact. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Touching Levels |
Too much mental masturbation |
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| Author: | NaughtyNapoleon [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Touching Levels |
Quote:
interesting point. i agree that #1 is not particurly important but i thought it helps with a smooth transition into #2. i thought that a girl would be more comfortable holdng your hand if you already touched her a few times before that. anyway you may be right. i shall experiment skipping #1 and jumping straight to #2 and comparing the results to not skipping #1.
Sit 45 degree to women is the best. You can touch her and you can have eye contact with her. but you do agree that you should sit next to her on a date? or is it better to sit opposite the girl on a date? Sit right beside her is hard to have eye contact. Besides, yes. skip #1. Do you ever see James Bond touch a girl like this?? Haha You can touch her lightly and leave there for a brief moment like you are not sure if you want her. But just no quick touch. |
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