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Author:  baracuda [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Need daygame advice
Ok so me an my friend went out today were both pretty new to doing daygame but now were both going to start consistantly.

Tonight after plucking up my courage after walking around for 2 hours i thought fuck it this is the new me,
I saw a hb 9 went up to her i said excuse me she gave me a dirty look an walked on, iv seen sascha reopen them so i tried that she said to me can i leave her alone.

Ok i thought she must be on the blob or shes just a genuine bitch but fucking hell not even a smile or fuck all
5 minutes later saw another although this one was a bit friendly she also told me to go. An the third 15 minutes later just wouldnt stop for me.


Now i have daygamed before an 90% of the girls were happy to stop an talk or atleast get shy an smile.

Did i just get really unlucky tonight since i last daygamed iv hit the gym for about 6months an i get people saying iv gone bigger.

My opener is shit il admit that i go up to them both palms up facing them an say excuse me after that if they let me get that far il give them a direct compliment. My friend said im to loud an everyone else around can hear its a really busy place so i can understand they may lanick a bit.


Do you think i should change my opener to somethin like hi im scott then say dont take this the wrong way or out then give them a direct compliment.

Im going again tommorow i aint settling for being average anymore its not the way to live.
Author:  flamingace96 [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
bad body language is usually why this happens.
btw never say excuse me; who says excuse me when they are talking to their friend or someone they have just banged?
Don't worry the first approach is usually shit after coming out of a rut, the next few will start going better.
Author:  Le Chiffre [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Quote:
My opener is shit il admit that i go up to them both palms up facing them an say excuse me after that if they let me get that far il give them a direct compliment.
You answered your own question. Clearly you truly do not feel confident with yourself. The girls will smell that off of you right away thus knowing you are not genuine when you come up to talk to them. They see another AFC coming up to hit on a hot chick. they know there hot and you were probably the sixth guy that day that hit on her. To truly be successful you have to be confident and genuine about the person. i don't personally like direct complimenting a girl espiclly when she is a HB9. rather you should have negged here.

For example:

You see a gorgeous girl in a grocery store. she is over in the milk isle and browsing the selection. instead of going up to her and saying you have a beautiful smile, try this. walk towards her pick up the almond milk and say "excuse me have a you ever tried this milk before? i want to start eating healthy but afraid this milk is going to taste like water."

by doing this it shows that your focus is the milk not her. She will feel more comfortable to talking to you knowing you are not approaching her for her looks.

wether she says yes or no does not matter.

after she replies hit her with a neg like "oh your nails very pretty! are they real?"

from this point on you have opened her up and now move in.

work on your openers. you have to be sneaky, and build seduction.
Author:  Rockets88 [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
If you really have game you dont have to neg. I got that from a Keys to the VIP episode with Cajun. That guy goes in. Check him out
Author:  n2thevoid [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Negging is for retards.
Author:  Clocks [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Don't base your game off the reaction of one girl. Even Sascha gets rejected - you're not gonna get every girl

Try the same opener with a few different people but bear in mind it could be HOW you say it. A coach provides good feedback on this but if you can't afford or don't want one I'm sure youc an work it out. Try it louder/more forceful (it sounds like you're going in with some doubt and the girls are probably picking up on it) or try it with more of a smile and see what works
Author:  baracuda [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
I agree with most of whats in here i am definately not feeling 100% confidnt approaching the girls im hoping after another 50 i will be fine im actually pretty confident in alot of things but doing this is the most scariest thing iv ever done but when you get a good response its the best feeling in the world.

I watched an hour video of yan talking last night an it opened my eyes a bit where im going wrong an its alot like you lot have said in here she can tell by my body language etc.

Neggings never really been my style iv always liked direct it just seems alot less complicated an none of this under tge rader if i find a girl attractive im going to tell her.

Right after the worst rejection iv ever got in my life yesterday im going to dust myself off an get right back there tonight guess youve got to go through the shit to get to the good.

Heres my plan for today

Clean my room (not really related to women but its one those things if i get it done an out the way ill feel better for myself.

Go to the gym
Study day game videos
Then tonight tone my opener down to hello or hi i dont know why i always say excuse me it is pretty pathetic

Ok ill update this tonight thanks for the help guys im going to need it
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
You have to approach women as if you KNOW they're going to be responsive to you. You're not excusing yourself; thats for pussies.. You are an opportunity for these women.

How would you approach if you were on some game show in which you had to pick a hot girl off the street to give a billion dollars to? You would approach with confidence because you know you have some powerful to over. You wouldn't say "uh uh excuse me.. wa wa would you like a billion dollars?" .. You'd be like " Whats up girl? I have a billion for you.. you want it? :) "

You're the billion bro; now go find some women to give it away to.
Author:  baracuda [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
You are right eddie you have put it in a very good way there its more of a shyness issue an the only way i know how to break it is exposure therapy. i will keep it in mind for tonight expect them to be responsive (noted)

im really beginning to see the benefits of failure although it hurts like hell an lowers my confidence i know one good set will boost it up to immense levels.
Author:  Le Chiffre [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Quote:
If you really have game you dont have to neg.
Maybe your right but this guy is not on that level yet and he is not going to get game over night.

Baracuda you are going to need a better opener than hello and a compliment. Make her earn the compliment. if you want to be direct thats fine but you are being to direct. you are not building seduction and thats how you get HB9s and above. what your doing maybe will work with HB7s and below because they don't hear it enough. But hot girls want something different than a guy walking up to her and saying "hello, you have pretty eyes! whats your name?"
i hope what you do works for you and you are successful tonight. Good luck!
Author:  baracuda [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
I absouloutly failed last night me an my friend just walked around for 3 hours that rejection really knocked my confidence but were going again. Tonight. Im not to sure about 9+ need more work when going direct iv done 1proper 10 before only 1 because there pretty hard to find was like a year ago an her reply was wow we talked like a minute an nerves got the better of me.

Its a confidence thing with me the girls i work with im hilarious with them i never run out of stuff to say an could chat forever. Iv got a filthy mind an i can be myself once i get used to them.

But new girls its always hard untill i get to know them once i get to know them once i get comftable with them im quite confident i could sleep with them.

Its what makes me shy doing daygame going up to them then my mind going blank it makes me act nervous an they can sense it. An im not really a shy guy usually iv walked round in a mankini sober infront of like 2000 people no fear at all.
Author:  Le Chiffre [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
what did you use as an opener?
Author:  baracuda [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Excuse me very weak i know it was how i said it i was all nervous once i get the nerves outthe way i belive i could do quite well im really bored of being an average nember of society.

My new ones just going to be hey im going to study how to approach i prefere when i see them to stop them face on not let them walk past then run after them. But it kind of startles them then they move left or right sometimes they stop.
Author:  flamingace96 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Quote:
Excuse me very weak i know it was how i said it i was all nervous once i get the nerves outthe way i belive i could do quite well im really bored of being an average nember of society.

My new ones just going to be hey im going to study how to approach i prefere when i see them to stop them face on not let them walk past then run after them. But it kind of startles them then they move left or right sometimes they stop.
sometimes im feeling really lazy and i dont feel like running after the girl so i just yell heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy like the biggest douche alive. Never worked so far but then i catch up to them once they stop and then say whatever i was going to say. I suggest you say hi from the side while walking up to them and then turning to face them and stop them; at this point you should be in front of them. Works pretty well and my best approaches have been just because of this. Daygame is actually not so hard if you start going completely natural; no openers or anything just simple conversation starters. I recently opened with "whats in the bag missy?" she instantly smiled and lit up. Like i said before its all body language; go on natural game and read the body language sticky.
Author:  baracuda [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need daygame advice
Yes my way of approaching was wrong i had an idea in my head that coming in face on was more manly but i watched a few videos last night an i was wrong.

My confidence is back just from understanding this haha well thanks for the help people we go again on sunday
An we can start early an do it all day plus venue change really optimistic an excited about life now.

My plan is do 10 then after them 1o i should be able to not be bothered about nerves etc for the next lot i do that day
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