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Author:  JTQatar [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  How to close this thing successfully now?
Okay so here is a loooong story short.
There is this girl. I have feelings for here since about 2 years. She knew this all the time because I told her. She was interested as well but we never got together because I was being weak and acting like a bitch and she wasnt really sure. So we always had this crazy relationship...Officially we were just "friends" even though she knew I have feelings for her but always on the edge of being more than just friends, we made things that you DO NOT do with just "a friend"....Anyways....

Like a week ago, she texts me as usual and asked me if I have time for her. As I always did, I came over to her place.
We were cuddling as usual, watching TV, joking around and what not. Then she said "Its uncomfortable, lets lay down" (Just to let you know this is nothing new. We where laying like that many times before).
So we lay....I start touching her, caressing her EVERYWHERE, I slowly started to lift up her shirt, caressing her back. And again...This happened in the past too so nothing to get terribly exited...But for some reason I got the balls this time and started kissing her. First I kissed her forehead, then her cheek, down to the corner of her mouth, down to her neck and ended up kissing her breasts... Now to make this short NO WE DID NOT HAVE SEX!
But when I got there I never ever expected something like this to happen!
The next day she asked me to come over again...Well...I did...This time I was ready to go all the way IF POSSIBLE.
Basically the same thing again...Laying down...Touching, kissing...Pulling up her Shirt....but at a certain point she said (in a very very calm and lovely and relaxed way!!!) "We dont have to do it the first time okay?" I said "No problem sweety" Then she asked "If I agreed with...what we just started...would you have gone all the way or would you have stopped at a certain point?" I said "Look...I dont start undressing you and touching you if i dont want to go all the way!" She looked me in the eye, smiled and hugged me very intense. The rest of the evening was just cuddling, touching and soft kissing...

So since then she is crazy! She texts me every day! Texting me good morning and good night, asking me to come over again and is generally into me. Its never been like this before.

Now here is my question or "problem"....last time I was there, I started undressing her again...She was like "No, please dont undress me" (in a very lovely and nice way!!) So I stopped went back to just cuddling and started the same thing like half an hour later. But again, she said no! So I went back to talking and kissing a bit again. So after another half an hour I tried it again and she said no again. So I decided not to rush anything and to just cuddle the rest of the evening. She was very sweet the rest of the evening! Caressing my arms, chest, hair, hugging me, always grabbing my hand to hold it...
Now my question is...Its obvious that she is ready for finally being more than just friends!
But I dont want to come off as a guy who only wants to fuck! Im concerned that she might get a wrong image of me when I always come over to her place and start to undress her. So what is the right strategy here? I want her to be my girlfriend! I love her and I dont want to screw this up now!
What is the right balance between getting sexual by undressing, touching her and showing her that i really care for her and want her as a person and as my girl? And how to handle these situations when she says "no".
Author:  GamesSN [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to close this thing successfully now?
Be physical bro.

You did well in just going for it. She wanted it, let you do it and gave you confirmation that she was interested and wanted it to happen. She needs you to push for it... The only problem is, from the sound of things, you're being really boring and predictable. You said each time you would do the same, kiss her forehead, arms, chest, etc. then her actually kiss her. How about you change it up just make out with her and get her wet from there without taking off her clothes?

Start making out on the couch, caress her through her clothes and make her want it all the more. Wait, don't rush into it then start to move her onto you so she's on your lap facing you making out with you. Start grabbing her ass while you're making out with her and put your hands on her sides every now and then firmly just over pelvis. Also, try biting her neck... It's a sex trigger for most people... just don't hurt her, focus on teasing, kissing and tugging at her neck as opposed to full on biting. This will drive her nuts. Keep it physical and make her want to progress the interaction. If at this point she says "stop" don't stop. Just reassure her and jump back into kissing her. This is a sure sign she's getting wet and too hot for you, she knows she wants your dick at this point and is consciously trying to slow down. Just give her what she wants.

Before you know it she'll be taking off her top and straddling you, making "fuck me" eyes at you.
Author:  JTQatar [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:09 pm ]
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The thing is...Im not like you guys (yet) I just started my journey 2 years ago. I mean I made really well the past 2 years and became a better man but still... im a virgin and this basically is my first girl ever. So to be honest enough im unexperienced. Im not acting unexperienced though...At least I try. She has no idea!

But I think when it gets serious I might be exited as fuck! So thats why its a bit complicated to me. And thats why I never really tried to kiss her properly and to make out with her because....Yeah....Its my first time...

I just dont want her to think that I only come over to visit her and spend time with her to get into her pants. I mean of course I do, but thats not the reason I want to spend time with her and be together with her.
Author:  GamesSN [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:36 pm ]
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Quote:
The thing is...Im not like you guys (yet) I just started my journey 2 years ago. I mean I made really well the past 2 years and became a better man but still... im a virgin and this basically is my first girl ever. So to be honest enough im unexperienced. Im not acting unexperienced though...At least I try. She has no idea!

But I think when it gets serious I might be exited as fuck! So thats why its a bit complicated to me. And thats why I never really tried to kiss her properly and to make out with her because....Yeah....Its my first time...

I just dont want her to think that I only come over to visit her and spend time with her to get into her pants. I mean of course I do, but thats not the reason I want to spend time with her and be together with her.
You're going to get excited and the first time you fuck a chick it's going to be over in a flash. Don't worry or be fretful of that. It's not going to be great but that's fine, you just improve with experience and the best way is to have a steady fuck partner or girlfriend. The absolute best way to learn is to have an experienced partner who can teach you, tell you where to go, what to do and be comfortable with. That's the ideal situation for gaining experience anyway.

If it's your first time you just have to do it and have low expectations of your performance. Accept that and it will be a lot easier on you.

Just go for it. She's not a virgin is she? She wants the D, man. Women just don't want to come across as slutty so they try and put up false walls. Follow my advice and let her come to you and start craving your dick in her mouth. Once she's sucking your love stick it should lead to the bedroom.

And forget that shit about what she thinks you're coming over for. It's a given you're both interested and it's also a fact that something is going to happen between you two. Just because you progress to having sex with her doesn't mean that's all you're there for. Put on your game face and just go for it. Stop putting up these excuses for yourself. Women respect a guy that go for it.

Do as I said in my previous post. Get HER wet and horny and she will start foaming at the mouth. She'll make all the moves, undress herself and lead you to fuck her. That's not on you and you've nothing to worry about there.

Just do it.
Author:  jeffyp [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:53 am ]
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Best to speak to her. Ask her where you're at. It's not hard and it's better than having her think you're there to fuck. Next time you're over ask her to be your girlfriend. If she's not sure, don't pressure anything and just wait for a response. But the main thing is to let her know your feelings.
Author:  JTQatar [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:06 pm ]
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So a rather big update on this one....

Today I visited her once again. It was our last "date" before she goes on vacation for 1 week.
So here is how it started (yesterday). We texted for quite some time.
I dont know how and why this came but I texted:

"I WANT you!"
She: "Like, completely?"
Me: "Yes, completely!"
She: "Are you sure?"
Me: "Yep! (with a heart kissing smile)"
She : "Okay (with a heart kissing smilie)"

So today I came over to her place and I knew that something HAS TO HAPPEN today, because after that she is gone for a week. When I got there she asked if we could lay down on the couch because she was being "tired"...So same thing as usual...We lay down, I start touching her, caressing her, soft kisses on the cheek blahblahblah same as explained in my previous post....
Well...I noticed that she was okay with touching her EVERYWHERE so I thought to myself "If you dont have the balls to kiss her like a man who wants a woman you have to do at least SOMETHING" So I pretty much did exactly the following thing:
Quote:
How about you change it up just make out with her and get her wet from there without taking off her clothes?

Start making out on the couch, caress her through her clothes and make her want it all the more.
Well not exactly...At this point let me mention it once again!: I never had any experience with a girl! I never really kissed a girl, or even had sex...So that being said:
I started kissing her cheek, down to her neck at the same time caressing her back and ass then really grabbing her ass and thigh. Then I did this
Quote:
Also, try biting her neck... It's a sex trigger
It took a very few minutes and it was some REAL intense minutes...I noticed that her breathing got more heavy and you could literally feel her lust it was CRAZY! She was also grabbing and caressing my back...When I moved back my head from her neck she couldnt hold it anymore and started making out with me...So me made out for quite some time (at least it felt like quite some time :D) and it was fucking amazing! I had now idea what I was doing but I just did. It was a bit awkward to be honest but I guess I was doing alright!
After that she came back like 2 or 3 times and just kissed me (not making out just kisses on the lips) out of the blue.

So yeah...Today I lost my "kissing-virginity" and im fucking proud of it! I dont care if anybody laughs about it or whatever. This was the day I been dreaming of for YEARS especially with this girl! And Im happy that it finally happened.
When I left I gave her one more kiss and now...lets see where it goes....
Author:  GamesSN [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to close this thing successfully now?
Good job!

Now all you have to do is close the deal and fuck her. As I said in my previous post: Don't worry about your first fuck. There's not much you can do there and it's nothing to be ashamed of bro. Just get the first time out of the way and the next time will last longer, feel better and you won't be nervous.

Also, would just like to point out that when her breathing got heavier(Which is to be expected) and she started actively kissing you and drawing herself into you... That was your chance to fuck her. You'll know for next time though. Just let it flow naturally but you have to initiate it physically by rubbing her pussy even through her clothes as you're both horny and she's gasping for it(Re neck biting).
Author:  JTQatar [ Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:17 pm ]
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Quick update and question/ your opinion

So a day before she left for her 1 week vacation I visited her one last time. Unfortunately only for like half an hour during my brake.
She was exited as hell, and her thoughts where somewhere else (her vacation obviously). She was all nice and cute, we held hands for some time while we were talking about her upcoming trip ( She is going to the USA for the first time so thats why she is exited as hell).
ANYWAYS... When I had to leave I grabbed her hips, pulled her in for a hug and a kiss obviously....BUT... I felt a resistance there. I went in for a kiss but she didnt do anything and it felt like she didnt really want it. So I let her go. I told her to have fun and enjoy her trip and to come back safely and what not. I went in for a kiss again. This time she kissed me but like i said... It felt like she didnt really wanted it that much. This really confused me because just one day before we made out and she was exited to kiss me and came to ME all the time to kiss me.
Do you think this is something to worry about, or was this just because she had other things on her mind and had her thoughts somewhere else and was stressed packing her stuff?

She texted me kisses and hearts right before she got on the plane, texted me when she got to her Hotel safely, texted me good night with kisses and hearts so I guess everythings going alright and she said she will miss me and cant wait to see me again next week.
But still...Im a bit confused why she wouldnt let me kiss her first, last time we been together.
Whats your opinion on that? Am I just being to sensitive right now and mindfucking myself?
And how should I behave next time we see each other? Kiss her right when I walk in or keep it simple at first and see how things go and go in for a kiss later?
I dont want to come off as a weak bitch now and I dont want to rush anything now.
Thanks guys!
Author:  GamesSN [ Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:23 pm ]
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I think you're just being sensitive.

Sounds like what you did was out of the ordinary for you. You said you just grabbed her before you left? You don't normally act that way do you? It would be odd for anyone to see such a dramatic shift instantly which is probably what caught her off guard.

Just let it flow naturally, hold her hand and then draw her in by gently pulling her towards you with her hand then kissing her. She'll follow if you lead this way.
Author:  JTQatar [ Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:23 pm ]
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So quick update...

She is back from her vacation and im back from mine. We only texted since then. She is all nice and cute, sending kisses and heart smilies and what not, but to me it seems like she is not that eager to see me.
Today I asked her if she wants to spend another evening together and she said "Yeah sure, we can do that". But when i asked her what she is free she said "Thats a good question..." "Its a bit difficult at the moment because exam is coming soon"
I just said "Alright. Just let me know when you want to get together then" I figured that this was the best answer I could give. She replied "Yeah sure i will!"

So bottom line...I do know that she has a big big and important exam coming real soon. And I know that she didnt really learn for it up to now (partly because she spend so much time with me the past few weeks). So she is not lying.
But still...If you want to see somebody you find time. Thats how I see it.

Another thing that came to my mind actually was that she is doing this on purpose because she does not want to start a "love story" right before this important exam that could draw her attention from learning and passing this exam. If you get what I mean...And to be honest I actually did the same thing a few month back when I had my exam. I "cut" the contact with her and didnt see her for weeks because I wanted to have all my thoughts and my mind on my important exam. So I know that she is a bit stressed right now and might have other things on her mind at the very moment! Im a bit upset to be honest with YOU but I think letting her come to me at her pace is the best way to go now. I dont want to annoy her and rush things. I guess it will get better when she passed her exam in 2 weeks of time.
Im not looking for excuses but I dont know what else could be the reason for this behavior because I know her for 2 years now and she has never ever been flaky.
Author:  GamesSN [ Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:56 pm ]
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Your way of seeing it is completely wrong. It's called priorities. If you have a big exam coming up and you need to study for it are you going to fuck some HB10 for one night or study your ass off for your exam and pass? If you choose the former you're an idiot no matter how good or bad you are with women.

She's busy and has exams, it's not a big deal. If I were you, however, I would see her sooner rather than later. Say "Hey, how about I call over this evening and we do X, Y or Z(Whatever you usually do). That way I don't have to worry about seeing you closer to your exams and getting in the way."
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