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| Author: | Rexus [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | How soon to kiss a girl after IOI’s? Did I wait too long? |
Hi All, Was in this bar/club last night, started talking to this cute girl that was walking past me. Straightaway she was feeling my arm a bit (I like to stay in shape) to which I made a joke about her trying to feel muscles. Also, at the beginning of the interaction there were a couple of times where our faces and lips were very close to each other while we were talking as she came in quite close to me. Now, me realising these were IOI’s, decided to try a half assed hair stroke move (I know that if a girl let’s you stroke her hair she is ready to be kissed etc etc) where I put my hand through her hair briefly and said I need to ask you something. She let me stroke her ok actually without moving back or anything, but due to me thinking this was too soon, I asked her some bullshit question rather than going in for the kiss. A bit later on the interaction was dying down, so with me feeling annoyed with myself for not taking the chance earlier and thinking I need to move faster, I (kind of) went for the kiss but it felt really unnatural and forced now, and I ended up kissing her on the cheek as the kiss didn’t seem forthcoming. Needless to say, she left not long after that after I had changed the subject (so what do u do? etc) and playfully teased her about it. Though, I did still found this a bit surprising given her apparent level of interest at the beginning. So, where did I go wrong? It felt very annoying as I thought this showed a lot of promise early on. How soon in this interaction was the right time to go for the kiss and how would you have done it? Also, in general, how soon is it possible to go in for the kiss if the situation is right? I realise this could be slightly dependent on culture and country so let’s assume we’re talking in the UK/US here. Thanks for any advice. It almost feels worse having the chance and not taking it, rather than not having the chance at all! |
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| Author: | Donston [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How soon to kiss a girl after IOI’s? Did I wait too long |
You can go for the kiss whenever you want. Even if the kiss is not there go for it. Even if she resists and say no ... just back off and say, "I thought you wanted to kiss. My bad." Then carry on like it wasn't a big deal. Then try again later. The point is that you seeded the kiss, you were not a cry baby for not getting it, now you can go for it again later on. To tell if a girl wants to kiss is by staring in her eyes. We call this the "anime eyes" or "Bamby eyes", if her pupils are large you can go for the kiss. If her pupils are small ... step back and warm her up a little more. - Other hints are if you are staring at her eyes, and she either licks her lips or quickly looks are you lips ... you can go for the kiss. What I usually do is a go "man to woman" right away when I approach a girl. To be in man to woman you are, 1) Laser eye contact. - It's like you are figuratively about to head butt her while staring into her eyes. 2) Proximity is very close. - You are really close to each other. 3) Physical. - Normally I am in a dance position with her like ... her arms is around my neck and my arms is around her waist. We are face to face. When I am man to woman ... I usually go for the kiss when she is laughing or smiling in a confident matter. I am very deceive and just force that kiss with my hands behind her back or my hand is on her face. Be confident and purposeful! Don't be half ass and hesitant! - If she resists ... it's ok ... if she didn't run away and she still there talking to you ... it's ok. Just say, "I thought you wanted me to kiss", then step back, continue to game like it didn't happen. To quickly get a kiss right off the opener ... get into man to woman interaction immediately or do a push/pull routine right away. Lastly, to really understand and know when to go for the kiss is to just go for the kiss .... even though it is not there. By fucking it up and actually getting reference experience is the only way to TRUELY know when the opportunities are there! Sincerely, Donston |
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| Author: | Rexus [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How soon to kiss a girl after IOI’s? Did I wait too long |
Thanks, some useful tips. I suppose instead of pussy footing about I should have gone for it rather than over think it. But hey, it's easy to say that with hindsight! Quote: Lastly, to really understand and know when to go for the kiss is to just go for the kiss .... even though it is not there. By fucking it up and actually getting reference experience is the only way to TRUELY know when the opportunities are there!
I love this tip. So true!
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