PUA Forum :: What to do after an LJBF

Quote:

Give it some time, then use this guide.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... iend-zone/

Finally got around to read the guide. It does not fit my situation.

Just to clarify:

I was sexual right from the start, so although I am friendzoned I was never the castrated guy or the gay friend. I flirted with her, hit on her shamelessly, comented on other girls, etc. I honestly think that was part of what was holding me back. She usually dates jerks with great looks, I was being a jerk with average looks. I say this because anytime I stoped gaming and in fact talked to her and was her friend, it brought us closer. Also, she is very extroverted, always talking about sex and that. So that's it for being more sexual. It simply is not an option because I tried it and it did not work. Although I believe I am moving in the right direction. When I first tried it she openly disliked it, now she mostly ignores it and sometimes (rarely) goes with it and flirts back a little bit.

She has some issues. Father died when she was a kid. Her relationship with her mother is not very good. No other family present. She has a very strong fetish for fireman, dated two, both times it ended badly, and because of that she has some trust issues. She says she is done with them but somehow always ends up looking at the same bad boy tipe. Underneath that crazyness, she is in fact a "good girl". Does not smoke, does not drink, has an healthy lifestyle, she's not as shallow as she seems and I've seen her have more than one act of moral highness. She always talks about love and says she is ready for a comitement. She just somehow always ends up making the same mistakes again.

I am pretty sure I am one of the people she is closer to, she confides very personal stuff with me and always looks to me for support.

I just read a post about a girl with issues and someone mantioned one of the options for the poster was to help her change her life for the better. I honestly believe she is trying to change her life for the better but somehow always reverts to old patterns in the end.

After I declared I was intersted in her and she said she was not into me things got a bit awkward. I cleared the air, said I did not hold a grudge against her, that I understood her position but I just had to know and that I will still be there as a friend when she needs me. After that things got back to normal or maybe even a bit better. She complains the guys she has dated before get all moody for nothing, maybe my mature attitude scored me some points, I don't know.

That is why I am a bit reluctant in trying the full freeze out (wich is impossible since we work together) or the shamelessly hit on other girls. She had her fair deal of "players". All better looking than me. And I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only thing I have going for me is being better than them. Girls I know and do not game usually call me "a gentleman". As I said, things got better when I quit gaming her, so if I go back to that I will just be giving her the bad part of what she had in the past without the good looks, big arms and ripped abs.

I was thinking about using Gambler's friendzone destroyer (be around, but not as much), hit on other girls but not like I don't give a fuck, more with an aproach like "I got ONE girl I'm into" to show her what she is missing, be her best friend (although not as often as before) and work on my vibe without making moves on her.

Anything else I should be doing? And how do I "work on my vibe"?

Author:	DemonKaz [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:	What to do after an LJBF
The very long story: all-right-time-to-solve-this-once-and-f ... 75183.html The long story: i-m-not-sure-about-this-girl-s-reaction-vt176266.html The short story: Thought there was something between us. There wasn't. Got the good 'ol LJBF. Where do I go from here? And please, keep in mind that for me it is more important to keep her friendship than gaming her. If I manage to turn her over, great. If not, I'd rather have one more friend.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:55 pm ]
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Quote: Where do I go from here? Go to the bar. Find a girl. Ask if she can cook. Tell her you have a guitar at home. Ask her if she wants to see it. Bring her home. Sleep with her. Tell her it's your birthday in the morning. Enjoy your made with lust breakfast. Then go tell your friend how awesome your night was.

Author:	Gunfighter28 [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:58 pm ]
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Exactly what Heywood said. I've read different techniques for "breaking out" of the friend zone, but I can honestly say none of them have ever worked in my case. The only thing that has worked for me in that situation, and worked very well is moving on meeting other girl, but at the same time don't cut her out keep the line open. She'll eventually get the point that you're seeing other women, and become interested in you as more than a friend, but if she doesn't no big deal you still have her as a friend and all the other women you've met as whatever you choose to let them be to you.

Author:	DemonKaz [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Easyer said than done. How do I do that if she is the only worthy girl on that social circle? Facebook pics? What else?

Author:	ConfidenceMatters [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Give it some time, then use this guide. http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... iend-zone/

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Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Quote: How do I do that if she is the only worthy girl on that social circle? Branch out from that circle. Quote: she is the only worthy girl SHE'S NOT, It's simply not true, your a little butt hurt right now because she blew you out, but obsessing over her won't help. As the OP said time will. Steer clear for a while. Quote: Easyer said than done. How do I do that It's a lot easier than you think, your the only block, look for and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. Reach down your pants, deep in your underwear, check and see if your balls are still intact, grab a buddy you can use as a wing, go somewhere fun, and actually have fun, don't make pussy your goal.

Author:	DemonKaz [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
You did not understand. What I mean is, she is the only worthy girl on that specific social circle. Of course I can game other girls, but on a diferent enviroment. And in that case how do I make her know what's going on without being too obvious? I mean, if short after an LJBF I walk up to her and say "hey, guess what, I just had a threesome with two models" she will see right through it. Of course, I could hit on another girl in front of her, if the rest of the social circle was not comprised of uglies, fatties and girls with boyfriends. See what the problem is? It's not in gaming other girls or getting over her. Is gaming other girls AND letting her know it without being too obvious.

Author:	Lec [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Even if it's work, it will only mean that she is interest in you only for ego purpose, is this really what you want from a girl you judge worthy? I'm not sure playing with the ego of other people is the right things to do for healthy friendship or sexual relationship. Sure it will get you laid, but the base of the relation will be screw. (i know it's advice far away from game, but i'm just trying to think of way to have relationship with people without hidding purpose)

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Quote: Is gaming other girls AND letting her know it without being too obvious. That's the point Bro, you should be gaming other girls, not giving a shit if your being obvious or not.....

Author:	DemonKaz [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Lec, I do get your advice and think you're right. Although I see it a little different. The way I see it what matters is the final result. I like her. I am ready to go all the way for her to make her happy (AFC, I know...) and I've been there for her more than once. Now I need to make her see she needs me and what she is missing out. I have been too available, being just the "safe option" she can rely on. Now I need to make her miss me and force her to make a decision.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Quote: Lec, I do get your advice and think you're right. Although I see it a little different. The way I see it what matters is the final result. I like her. I am ready to go all the way for her to make her happy (AFC, I know...) and I've been there for her more than once. Now I need to make her see she needs me and what she is missing out. I have been too available, being just the "safe option" she can rely on. Now I need to make her miss me and force her to make a decision. Yes.

Author:	DemonKaz [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Quote: Give it some time, then use this guide. http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... iend-zone/ Finally got around to read the guide. It does not fit my situation. Just to clarify: I was sexual right from the start, so although I am friendzoned I was never the castrated guy or the gay friend. I flirted with her, hit on her shamelessly, comented on other girls, etc. I honestly think that was part of what was holding me back. She usually dates jerks with great looks, I was being a jerk with average looks. I say this because anytime I stoped gaming and in fact talked to her and was her friend, it brought us closer. Also, she is very extroverted, always talking about sex and that. So that's it for being more sexual. It simply is not an option because I tried it and it did not work. Although I believe I am moving in the right direction. When I first tried it she openly disliked it, now she mostly ignores it and sometimes (rarely) goes with it and flirts back a little bit. She has some issues. Father died when she was a kid. Her relationship with her mother is not very good. No other family present. She has a very strong fetish for fireman, dated two, both times it ended badly, and because of that she has some trust issues. She says she is done with them but somehow always ends up looking at the same bad boy tipe. Underneath that crazyness, she is in fact a "good girl". Does not smoke, does not drink, has an healthy lifestyle, she's not as shallow as she seems and I've seen her have more than one act of moral highness. She always talks about love and says she is ready for a comitement. She just somehow always ends up making the same mistakes again. I am pretty sure I am one of the people she is closer to, she confides very personal stuff with me and always looks to me for support. I just read a post about a girl with issues and someone mantioned one of the options for the poster was to help her change her life for the better. I honestly believe she is trying to change her life for the better but somehow always reverts to old patterns in the end. After I declared I was intersted in her and she said she was not into me things got a bit awkward. I cleared the air, said I did not hold a grudge against her, that I understood her position but I just had to know and that I will still be there as a friend when she needs me. After that things got back to normal or maybe even a bit better. She complains the guys she has dated before get all moody for nothing, maybe my mature attitude scored me some points, I don't know. That is why I am a bit reluctant in trying the full freeze out (wich is impossible since we work together) or the shamelessly hit on other girls. She had her fair deal of "players". All better looking than me. And I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only thing I have going for me is being better than them. Girls I know and do not game usually call me "a gentleman". As I said, things got better when I quit gaming her, so if I go back to that I will just be giving her the bad part of what she had in the past without the good looks, big arms and ripped abs. I was thinking about using Gambler's friendzone destroyer (be around, but not as much), hit on other girls but not like I don't give a fuck, more with an aproach like "I got ONE girl I'm into" to show her what she is missing, be her best friend (although not as often as before) and work on my vibe without making moves on her. Anything else I should be doing? And how do I "work on my vibe"?

Author:	Pikeman85 [ Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Or you could, you know, stop giving a fuck for real, and not try to play tricks. Not that I'm knocking the friendzone destroyer stuff, it can be good, and that and boyfriend destroyer stuff was what initially got me into PUA, but you should generally be trying to get better with other women generally. There are lots of girls.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
Quote: Quote: Give it some time, then use this guide. http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... iend-zone/ Finally got around to read the guide. It does not fit my situation. Just to clarify: I was sexual right from the start, so although I am friendzoned I was never the castrated guy or the gay friend. I flirted with her, hit on her shamelessly, comented on other girls, etc. I honestly think that was part of what was holding me back. She usually dates jerks with great looks, I was being a jerk with average looks. I say this because anytime I stoped gaming and in fact talked to her and was her friend, it brought us closer. Also, she is very extroverted, always talking about sex and that. So that's it for being more sexual. It simply is not an option because I tried it and it did not work. Although I believe I am moving in the right direction. When I first tried it she openly disliked it, now she mostly ignores it and sometimes (rarely) goes with it and flirts back a little bit. She has some issues. Father died when she was a kid. Her relationship with her mother is not very good. No other family present. She has a very strong fetish for fireman, dated two, both times it ended badly, and because of that she has some trust issues. She says she is done with them but somehow always ends up looking at the same bad boy tipe. Underneath that crazyness, she is in fact a "good girl". Does not smoke, does not drink, has an healthy lifestyle, she's not as shallow as she seems and I've seen her have more than one act of moral highness. She always talks about love and says she is ready for a comitement. She just somehow always ends up making the same mistakes again. I am pretty sure I am one of the people she is closer to, she confides very personal stuff with me and always looks to me for support. I just read a post about a girl with issues and someone mantioned one of the options for the poster was to help her change her life for the better. I honestly believe she is trying to change her life for the better but somehow always reverts to old patterns in the end. After I declared I was intersted in her and she said she was not into me things got a bit awkward. I cleared the air, said I did not hold a grudge against her, that I understood her position but I just had to know and that I will still be there as a friend when she needs me. After that things got back to normal or maybe even a bit better. She complains the guys she has dated before get all moody for nothing, maybe my mature attitude scored me some points, I don't know. That is why I am a bit reluctant in trying the full freeze out (wich is impossible since we work together) or the shamelessly hit on other girls. She had her fair deal of "players". All better looking than me. And I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only thing I have going for me is being better than them. Girls I know and do not game usually call me "a gentleman". As I said, things got better when I quit gaming her, so if I go back to that I will just be giving her the bad part of what she had in the past without the good looks, big arms and ripped abs. I was thinking about using Gambler's friendzone destroyer (be around, but not as much), hit on other girls but not like I don't give a fuck, more with an aproach like "I got ONE girl I'm into" to show her what she is missing, be her best friend (although not as often as before) and work on my vibe without making moves on her. Anything else I should be doing? And how do I "work on my vibe"? You've got oneites on a deep, deep level my friend. You have her on a pedestal so high you would need binoculars to ever see that pussy, and that is just a horrible place to be. No ljbf destroyer will work. Only fresh hot pussy will.

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Author:	Ten74 [ Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What to do after an LJBF
^^^^^ +fucking 1000 You like analyzing, analize this: Do you think she spends as much time thinking of you as you so obviously think of her? - When you get things equal in the though arena, you have a fighting chance. - She is not gonna think about you any more than she already does right now. - Therefore you have to free your mind to other things. And they don't ALWAYS have to be women, although they're pretty effective. Go out and do other shit with your life. I have always met better and fresher pussy when I was forcing myself to get out there and get my mind off the pussy I couldn't get.