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Author:  Zack Ripley [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Apocalypse Opener

Has anyone successfully pulled this one off, or a variation?

I am doing my research before I use this one, seems like something you use with caution.

http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-g ... se-opener/

Author:  Seduction Sebi [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener

When do all the thousands of people out there understand that it doesn't matter what you say and what opener you use. The only important thing is that you communicate your opener in a way that is based on authenticity, honesty and self-confidence. The best opener is still: "Hey I am "your name", what is your name?"

This simple lines kills even the apocalypse superman wonder energy earthquake opener.

Author:  Snarg [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener

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When do all the thousands of people out there understand that it doesn't matter what you say and what opener you use. The only important thing is that you communicate your opener in a way that is based on authenticity, honesty and self-confidence. The best opener is still: "Hey I am "your name", what is your name?"

This simple lines kills even the apocalypse superman wonder energy earthquake opener.
100% agreed.

But to more directly answer your question, no, there's no way in fucking hell that this apocalypse bullshit is anywhere near as effective as...pretty much anything else. Think about the type of rare woman that this WOULD work on. Do you even have any interest in someone like that?

Author:  Zack Ripley [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener

Yes, the "Hi, I'm so and so" is still my favorite opener by far... I just want to use the Apocalypse Opener and see what happens.

Author:  ChimeranPanda [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener

Here is my feedback from using it a few days: you better look your best. I'm good-looking and i arrogantly wore work boots and an undershirt (and it was fashion week in a major fashion city). I got blown out. I learned humility and that one must match the culture.

I 100% recommend you try it for a while. But to use it, you have to be 100% your best. Record your voice and make sure the tone sounds right. If you look like an idiot when you smile (like I do, probably a lot of people do), cut it out. Write back.

Author:  hairypua [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener

I honestly think this is an urban legend, just a right of passage for pua's to see if they have balls and that being it's only valid purpose. I already know what the end result will be but i'll try it one of these days, just to say I did. I think I can pull it off without freaking out but I certainly won't get laid, unless she's ugly and drunk. But i won't do that I'll go for a girl that is a 7 and buzzed and just to make things fair to her I'll have a drink before hand as well. I don't expect that any girl would jump me after hearing this approach but I'm eager to see how her state of mind develops after I accept that she doesn't wanna sleep with me. I wanna see the look on her face as I continue to make conversation that says "he doesn't care if we have sex, he's cool with being just friends?, but i'm hott!" and hope she protests.

The only way I can see this working is if I'm allowed to (after being rejected) honestly say "Sorry bout that, I just thought you were pretty cute" (not "so damn sexy" because after this point i think it'd be best to neg and IOD until she realises she'd be lucky to go home with me). "anyways... [banter]".

Author:  Zack Ripley [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener

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I honestly think this is an urban legend, just a right of passage for pua's to see if they have balls and that being it's only valid purpose. I already know what the end result will be but i'll try it one of these days, just to say I did. I think I can pull it off without freaking out but I certainly won't get laid, unless she's ugly and drunk. But i won't do that I'll go for a girl that is a 7 and buzzed and just to make things fair to her I'll have a drink before hand as well. I don't expect that any girl would jump me after hearing this approach but I'm eager to see how her state of mind develops after I accept that she doesn't wanna sleep with me. I wanna see the look on her face as I continue to make conversation that says "he doesn't care if we have sex, he's cool with being just friends?, but i'm hott!" and hope she protests.

The only way I can see this working is if I'm allowed to (after being rejected) honestly say "Sorry bout that, I just thought you were pretty cute" (not "so damn sexy" because after this point i think it'd be best to neg and IOD until she realises she'd be lucky to go home with me). "anyways... [banter]".
No!!! You don't apologize if she rejects it! That defeats the whole purpose!

If (lets be honest, when) she rejects it, you take it in stride and act as if it doesn't matter! Then you simply segue into midgame, but she will still be thinking about how ballsy you were in the first place to proposition her like that.

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