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| Author: | Ollie789 [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | She broke no contact |
Hi there, Just looking for a bit of advice. Basically I was "seeing" this girl for a few months before Xmas and at first we got on really well, met up several times and although we never had sex, we did kiss and do other sexual things, I shan't go into detail. Then she started getting busier and busier with uni, work and other things so the time we chatted got less and less. Then I started acting like an AFC and chasing her, in hindsight a bad move. This pushed her away and made me less attractive to her! So at Xmas I thought, "I'm getting hung up on this girl and as much as I like her I think it's best to cut contact! Fast forward 4 weeks of no contact and outta the blue she calls me, I'm busy the first time so I don't answer then I text an couple hours later saying "hi, you called?" She immediately called me again and sounded really enthusiastic and chatty, and previously when I called her she would always say she's busy after 5 minutes and hang up! This time we were chatting away and I know I need to be the one to cut this short so I think about 15 mins into it I made my excuses and hung up. This was 2 days ago not had any contact since. Ok - I'm not taking this as a "she wants me again" or getting ideas in my head about this. Just wondering what I should do next, stay no contact, text her again, call her again? I don't want to call/text her and seem to keen and fall into the afc trap again. Any advice welcome |
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| Author: | CyberTiger [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
#1 Advice on this forum for dating advice: Be a man, do what you want with confidence then you'll never fall into the afc trap. If you want to call her then do that, if she treats you wrong be a man about it and don't let her. If you want her do as much as you are willing to invest with confidence. Or watch some RSD movies to get your "inner game" :* right then you made it already... etc bla bla bla, "Man up" "Be confident" and she'll be all wet and steamy for you... pfff (I'm taking the glory from a self proclaimed master/teacher/adviser/coach here, bite me =P ) Sorry I cannot give you real PU advice since I've just started myself, best of luck to you Regards Cyber |
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| Author: | Ollie789 [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
Cheers mate! Yeah I know I gotta act confident. Just worried that if I call her straight away, no matter how confident I sound, it will come across as afc! |
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| Author: | Sparks2014 [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
well im new to the boards but not to pickup, the fact that u cut of communication, and identified that you were chasing is good, she called u and thats a good sign if you want to turn it around you have to stop chasing, she called you and you say you kept the conversation short, however i think 15 mins was too long it probably conveyed that u had nothing better to do than talk to her, i think if she calls again keep it really short perhaps 5 mins or so and dont say too much let her to the talking simply keep your responses short, let her talk and respond with simple things, cool, yeah that sounds exiting, or however you choose to word it but dont make yourself appear to interested, then cut the conversation off, with something short and simple like hey been cool chatting but i have to go im in the middle of something call me later. something to get her thinking and wonder why all of a sudden you dont seem as interested and she will wonder what this thing that was more important than her could possibly be, chances are she will probably call again at a later stage, then you simply turn the tables and make her chase you, with things such as not picking up the phone waiting a day or two to call her back make her the one with more vested interest not you, take it from there and see what happens and what you feel like, but you have to stay active get out and do other things meet new people etc, and enjoy yourself you will find that will help your inner game too and wo knows, maybe you will find a girl better than her hope that helped |
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| Author: | Ollie789 [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
Good advice! Thanks! Yeah I know 15 minutes was probably too long! To be honest I didn't realise the time when I was only the phone! I missed her call the first time for 2 hours because I was genuinely busy! I think being "vague" and keeping interested is a good tactic with short responses, maybe that's where I'm going wrong with her and other girls. I usually send longer messages with lots in them to make me seem interesting and build rapport. |
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| Author: | CyberTiger [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
Hmm I wonder if that is right though... no offense Sparks you'll probably know what you are talking about... BUT What about the "context-frame"(I made that one up, hope it explains itself) He already made out with her. What was her motivation to go cold? He says he chased her too much, which is him putting pressure on her sexually but also creating a context which she remembers him from. I'd suggest she felt pressured and got insecure here. Now she remembered him, remembered what it is like to be wanted thus called him up again, to fulfill her basic need of feeling sexy or getting rid of her insecurity. She got enthusiastic because she needed the approval to her "being still desirable". As soon as she got it she went cold again of course. Now how does our poor chump here manages to get her back to bagging for more without putting on too much sexual pressure as he did before? Now to Sparks suggestion: Cutting the time frame, why would this make a difference considering she already got what she came for and is satisfied at the moment. I'd say it is way more important at the moment to get her basically attracted again. BUT Is this really achieved by just jumping in her mind via text/call for 5 minutes then running away with a BS excuse which she will know is fake, since she is obviously human and don't flatter yourself she can think too. She plays like that probably too so, I'd suggest not going to use such a primitive approach strategy. Sparks I think your advice is good in a context-frame where you just met the girl or aren't acquainted too much where the pretense should be to build an aura of mystery of having a full life bla bla bla faking, creating a smoke screen, stuff that's basically worthless out of a certain context. I'd say what has to be done in this context-frame is to build up her basic want of being secured by a male/feeling the urge to mate with a potential protector How to achieve that by cutting times or keeping answers short on the phone eludes me completely I'm afraid. |
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| Author: | Sparks2014 [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
yeah i've been there buddy short and vague makes them think and its powerful rather than giving them it all on a plate give them a little and make them work to achieve the rest if that makes sense i did the same a while back but contrary to logical thinking you seem much more interesting when you are for lack of better wording 'mysterious' glad it helped just resist the urge to call her if you really want to spike interest you can send something along the lines of ''hey i saw something that made me think of you, that's kind of funny'' basically gives them curiosity and also a ''excuse'' if you like to message you and ask what it is i actually used this cause i saw a girl with the same shoes as my ex and the girl i was interested in rang me like 4 times in an hour i ended up texting saying i'll call you later im busy, and to ''reward'' the try harding i just said well its all good they look better on you maybe food for thought and in response to CyberTiger: firstly no offense taken, i do not claim to be awesome, its just my own observation, He already made out with her. What was her motivation to go cold? it could be any number of things, she could have talked to a friend and been called ''a slut'' for not having known him long enough, although he said he was seeing her for a few months which leads me to believe that it was potentially all one sided investment, with him chasing, perhaps getting too romantic too early , it could very well also be what you suggested. Now she remembered him, remembered what it is like to be wanted thus called him up again, to fulfill her basic need of feeling sexy or getting rid of her insecurity. She got enthusiastic because she needed the approval to her "being still desirable". As soon as she got it she went cold again of course. Now how does our poor chump here manages to get her back to bagging for more without putting on too much sexual pressure as he did before? Possibly, however i think its more than a need to feel sexy if they had been seeing each other for a few months although its true some girls like to keep guys around them to ''test potential'' if you like Now to Sparks suggestion: Cutting the time frame, why would this make a difference considering she already got what she came for and is satisfied at the moment. I'd say it is way more important at the moment to get her basically attracted again. BUT Is this really achieved by just jumping in her mind via text/call for 5 minutes then running away with a BS excuse which she will know is fake, since she is obviously human and don't flatter yourself she can think too. She plays like that probably too so, I'd suggest not going to use such a primitive approach strategy. Sparks I think your advice is good in a context-frame where you just met the girl or aren't acquainted too much where the pretense should be to build an aura of mystery of having a full life bla bla bla faking, creating a smoke screen, stuff that's basically worthless out of a certain context. I'd say what has to be done in this context-frame is to build up her basic want of being secured by a male/feeling the urge to mate with a potential protector How to achieve that by cutting times or keeping answers short on the phone eludes me completely I'm afraid. If he distances himself a little and relaxes a little and makes her chase he has definitely got the possibility to further it from where it was, Remember: Men think LOGICALLY Women feel EMOTIONALLY you have a good point with regards to the games YES she does this all the time, but she is an emotional creature, its not like us where as now we are sitting thinking hmm why? she will be thinking a host of other things from a simple shift in approach, so weather they know it or not it will still run through their mind even if its bs and they know it ofc you need to confidence to back it up but her thought process will probably be along the lines of: oh.. i guess im not as interesting to him as i thought, was he really busy? did he just not want to talk to me? what did i do wrong? am i boring? what is he doing? where is he? who is he with? why didnt he tell me more? all of tat while on the surface looks negative what is on her mind the whole time? (he) for the most part and secondly (competing for the attention) (Her) simple tactic = (Her) thinking about (Him) on an emotional level i see it as more of an odd test, ive had girls i have been sexual with suddenly do this and i simply do the above, they will wonder why its so cold, why we dont wanna talk to them, why we arent bothered, why we haven't called, did we go off them, do we not find them attractive any more, and a host of other things even a female that you have only met once, making them chase and you the ''prize'' if you like, not only entices, excites, and emotionally draws a woman in but in itself also builds interest,becasue if she is doing all of this emotionally, she will begin to feel emotionally attracted as she is ''invested with interest'' Crazy as it sounds simply toning it down a little and reversing the invested interest can work wonders, as a woman loves to chase, they love a challenge if you give them that they will follow up on it in a sense (dangling a carrot just out of reach) i hope that makes sense as i said its simply my own observation, but if its unclear or you want some clarification let me know |
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| Author: | CyberTiger [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
Hmm sounds all good and makes sense. ...interesting. I'll try exactly that next time I get to text gaming, but then I need a new number(s) for that now since my last blew XD poor kitty :/ Regards Cyber |
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| Author: | Ollie789 [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: She broke no contact |
Quote: oh.. i guess im not as interesting to him as i thought, was he really busy? did he just not want to talk to me? what did i do wrong? am i boring? what is he doing? where is he? who is he with? why didnt he tell me more? It does sound negative and like I'm not building a rapport and I don't want her to think, 'He doesn't care about talking to me so I won't bother with him' I've just had a brief text convo with her, three messages each and the last one she send a pic of something she saw out walking and I just texted back 'Nice!' It killed the convo dead and she hasnt text back.I'm just wondering is this a good thing.... Shes acting like she did when we first started chatting!!! Blooming weird: calling me, sending me random pics, acting interested! |
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