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Author:  moneyneversleeps [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Has anyone faced this problem

So I have had this issue for some time now and i just can't quite seem to figure this out.
Hopefully, some more competent people will be able to shed some light.

Basically, I can open any set. Befriend males easily, make friends with randoms, etc.
My issue however is every time I open attractive women, i.e. HB9s i cant seem to get passed the opening. I open, make a few comments we joke around and then im stuck. So i tend to eject and the process continues.

My openers are generally a situational neg. So it always sounds sincere, (not really as if i am trying to pick them up just tease).

example:
So yesterday, i opened these two absolute stunning girls, negged them about being tall (they were about 5 foot 11, im about 5 foot 8), they hugged me an we were having heaps of fun. We had a friendly banter and then i eject.

I ran into them again later on that evening, they were with some other friends and they responded really well. They both cuddled me and said hey etc etc.
I then, teased them a bit and then tried to focus on the tanned girl. I asked where she was from and then i pretty much don't want to seem like i am trying to pick them up as this may come out as uncool or sleazy. So stumped i just told her she was cute, she smiled and said thanks and then i just said ok im going to find my friends.

I have come out of a 5 year relationship, where i was with an attractive girl (HB9) and i think i am stuck in the mentality that sexually advancing or appearing as if i am trying to pick them up too soon seems sleezy, like the guys that use to try make moves on my ex.

Also if my male friends are with me, i can generally take the girls, bring them over to guys and join the groups. Any girl over HB7 i will rarely close. I generally wonder off at this point as i dont want to ruin the cool persona. More often than not, the girls will hook up with one of my friends.

I guess i am a superb wingman LOL.

Any help is appreciated.

Author:  R.C [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Has anyone faced this problem

You're basically being apologetic.


You seem to have a great attitude while opening , but you're making a big deal out of closing. If you do that , so will they.

Just keep it cool and light. You won't come off like they guys that used hit on your ex because the vast majority of them were either major AFC's or wannabe "playas".

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