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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
I'm not a PUA by any stretch, i've only started studying the material and trying out a few bits here and there recently. Right now i've just got back into England after spending most of the last year in Australia, and obviously i'm still a bit strapped for cash trying to sort out a new job and new place to stay. In the mean time i joined Okcupid last week and chatted to a few girls and arranged a date for a drink. What i wanted was just a couple of drinks to see what the girl was like, but it turned out she was expecting me to buy her drinks all night and pay for her dinner, and when i as politely as i could told her i wasn't going to it didn't go down well. Anyway, date went well, we got along and had a laugh, had a kiss and cuddle at the end and went our separate ways. Now i'm talking to her on SPAM and she's keen for a second date but i'm not going to spend a lot of money that i can't afford and want to know how to approach this. She's already told me she's old fashioned and expects a man to pay for things, and i've already told her i disagree and don't need to buy a girl's company. Where to go from here? Should i just bail and look for another girl? |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
First date, you pay. Go on a cheaper date if you aren't willing to. The PUA logic is for the most part, 100% wrong when it comes to not paying, especially on a first date from online. I have field tested this numerous times and it always goes over horribly if you don't pay, and even if it doesn't, you rarely ever see the girl again. The fact that you guys are arguing about money etc. already makes you appear beta as shit. Sorry. The solution is not to bring it up and to choose dates that are not expensive. |
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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
No offence, but i'm new to the whole PUA thing but i'm not new to dating. I've been on hundreds of dates and unless i've got some investment in the girl i don't offer to pay for everything, and this is one of the few times i've ever even been expected to pay for everything. Also, i didn't invite her out to dinner, i invited her out for a drink to meet face to face and she pushed to turn it into something bigger. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: No offence, but i'm new to the whole PUA thing but i'm not new to dating. I've been on hundreds of dates and unless i've got some investment in the girl i don't offer to pay for everything, and this is one of the few times i've ever even been expected to pay for everything. Also, i didn't invite her out to dinner, i invited her out for a drink to meet face to face and she pushed to turn it into something bigger.
So why are you asking the question if you are clearly an expert? I've been on thousands of dates, probably one thousand 1st dates. Not paying usually comes off as beta as shit, especially if you start making an issue out of the cost of a freaking date. If you can't even afford a date, how is that supposed to look alpha to anyone in any way? How is that supposed to look anything but beta?
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| Author: | hugge [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
In my opinion, the one who takes the initiative to the date, pays for the date. However, due to all these old fashion expectations from girls, you should at least ask her (if she took the initiative asking you out), if you should split the bill in two. I think it is reasonable to pay for a dinner and drinks during the dinner. Anything after that is something you can discuss with each other before going somewhere else. |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: I'm not a PUA by any stretch, i've only started studying the material and trying out a few bits here and there recently. Right now i've just got back into England after spending most of the last year in Australia, and obviously i'm still a bit strapped for cash trying to sort out a new job and new place to stay. In the mean time i joined Okcupid last week and chatted to a few girls and arranged a date for a drink. What i wanted was just a couple of drinks to see what the girl was like, but it turned out she was expecting me to buy her drinks all night and pay for her dinner, and when i as politely as i could told her i wasn't going to it didn't go down well.
Remember who is in control. Anyway, date went well, we got along and had a laugh, had a kiss and cuddle at the end and went our separate ways. Now i'm talking to her on SPAM and she's keen for a second date but i'm not going to spend a lot of money that i can't afford and want to know how to approach this. She's already told me she's old fashioned and expects a man to pay for things, and i've already told her i disagree and don't need to buy a girl's company. Where to go from here? Should i just bail and look for another girl? Polity explain your preference/circumstance if she can not accept, than you have your answer. |
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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote: No offence, but i'm new to the whole PUA thing but i'm not new to dating. I've been on hundreds of dates and unless i've got some investment in the girl i don't offer to pay for everything, and this is one of the few times i've ever even been expected to pay for everything. Also, i didn't invite her out to dinner, i invited her out for a drink to meet face to face and she pushed to turn it into something bigger.
So why are you asking the question if you are clearly an expert? I've been on thousands of dates, probably one thousand 1st dates. Not paying usually comes off as beta as shit, especially if you start making an issue out of the cost of a freaking date. If you can't even afford a date, how is that supposed to look alpha to anyone in any way? How is that supposed to look anything but beta?I've never called myself an expert, and i know i have room for improvement in a lot of areas. But i've always been able to meet girls without paying for their company before i ever even heard of PUA or gaming. When i have money to spare i still would be cautious of spending it on someone who is essentially a complete stranger. And as i've already said, right now i have other things to put my money towards that come way higher on the priority list than expensive dinners. If buying girls dinner and spending your money works for you then all power to you. It's not something i'm interested in doing and if that's all you have to offer then you may as well leave my thread. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote: Quote: No offence, but i'm new to the whole PUA thing but i'm not new to dating. I've been on hundreds of dates and unless i've got some investment in the girl i don't offer to pay for everything, and this is one of the few times i've ever even been expected to pay for everything. Also, i didn't invite her out to dinner, i invited her out for a drink to meet face to face and she pushed to turn it into something bigger.
So why are you asking the question if you are clearly an expert? I've been on thousands of dates, probably one thousand 1st dates. Not paying usually comes off as beta as shit, especially if you start making an issue out of the cost of a freaking date. If you can't even afford a date, how is that supposed to look alpha to anyone in any way? How is that supposed to look anything but beta?I've never called myself an expert, and i know i have room for improvement in a lot of areas. But i've always been able to meet girls without paying for their company before i ever even heard of PUA or gaming. When i have money to spare i still would be cautious of spending it on someone who is essentially a complete stranger. And as i've already said, right now i have other things to put my money towards that come way higher on the priority list than expensive dinners. If buying girls dinner and spending your money works for you then all power to you. It's not something i'm interested in doing and if that's all you have to offer then you may as well leave my thread. |
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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
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Lol. wtf are you talking about? Spending money??
Cool story bro.
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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote: I'm not a PUA by any stretch, i've only started studying the material and trying out a few bits here and there recently. Right now i've just got back into England after spending most of the last year in Australia, and obviously i'm still a bit strapped for cash trying to sort out a new job and new place to stay. In the mean time i joined Okcupid last week and chatted to a few girls and arranged a date for a drink. What i wanted was just a couple of drinks to see what the girl was like, but it turned out she was expecting me to buy her drinks all night and pay for her dinner, and when i as politely as i could told her i wasn't going to it didn't go down well.
Remember who is in control. Anyway, date went well, we got along and had a laugh, had a kiss and cuddle at the end and went our separate ways. Now i'm talking to her on SPAM and she's keen for a second date but i'm not going to spend a lot of money that i can't afford and want to know how to approach this. She's already told me she's old fashioned and expects a man to pay for things, and i've already told her i disagree and don't need to buy a girl's company. Where to go from here? Should i just bail and look for another girl? Polity explain your preference/circumstance if she can not accept, than you have your answer. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote:
Lol. wtf are you talking about? Spending money??
Cool story bro. |
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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote: Quote:
Lol. wtf are you talking about? Spending money??
Cool story bro. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Instead of listening to 'so called experts' i should be listening to anonymous posters on the internet who i have no reason whatsoever to trust? |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm not a PUA by any stretch, i've only started studying the material and trying out a few bits here and there recently. Right now i've just got back into England after spending most of the last year in Australia, and obviously i'm still a bit strapped for cash trying to sort out a new job and new place to stay. In the mean time i joined Okcupid last week and chatted to a few girls and arranged a date for a drink. What i wanted was just a couple of drinks to see what the girl was like, but it turned out she was expecting me to buy her drinks all night and pay for her dinner, and when i as politely as i could told her i wasn't going to it didn't go down well.
Remember who is in control. Anyway, date went well, we got along and had a laugh, had a kiss and cuddle at the end and went our separate ways. Now i'm talking to her on SPAM and she's keen for a second date but i'm not going to spend a lot of money that i can't afford and want to know how to approach this. She's already told me she's old fashioned and expects a man to pay for things, and i've already told her i disagree and don't need to buy a girl's company. Where to go from here? Should i just bail and look for another girl? Polity explain your preference/circumstance if she can not accept, than you have your answer. |
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| Author: | Konassin [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl expects me to pay for everything? |
Quote: Quote: Instead of listening to 'so called experts' i should be listening to anonymous posters on the internet who i have no reason whatsoever to trust? Give yourself a pat on the back... or whatever it is you're after... for trying to start some sort of argument with me. Take care now. |
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