PUA Forum :: Newbie Problem With Game

I've recently read the game. And I'm sure like everybody else who has ever read it, I feel enlightened. But I'm not practicing it's message. The changes I have made a superficial on the scale of getting more attractive women. It had allowed me to define everything I was previously doing, it has allowed me the ability to review and therefore improve my game. See I've never been 'bad' with women. I just want to improve my reach. But I guess that makes me different from style and from the other PUA's in that.... I HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE.

It is stopping me from completely changing myself. Because I don't feel broken. Just in need of some tuning and direction. Also I've struggled with the premise of women bieng the sole motivation for this self improvement. Women are important to me, but they are not everything. I want to be respected by my fellows. I want to have meaningful conversations about life's biggest questions. I want to figure the game for myself, I dont want to be spooned the ability to attract women. I want to be more than anything, loved for being myself. Will this prevent me from ever being a PUA? Are having fun whilst occasionally playing the fool and being good with attractive women mutually exclusive? Can I be and do both?

I live in London. In an amazing flat near old street, Islington, Shoreditch very close to Fabric the nightclub. I have a great job very close by. I HAVE everything set up. Do I have to sell my soul to get what I want?

I really love David D's style, thats pretty natural for me. But whilst I find it easy to raise rapport with women I find it hard to phase shift. Is there anyone a little more experienced, who has maybe dealt with these issues that wants to chat?

Yours sincerely,
Ben AFC

Author:	Opposed_Motion [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Newbie Problem With Game
I've recently read the game. And I'm sure like everybody else who has ever read it, I feel enlightened. But I'm not practicing it's message. The changes I have made a superficial on the scale of getting more attractive women. It had allowed me to define everything I was previously doing, it has allowed me the ability to review and therefore improve my game. See I've never been 'bad' with women. I just want to improve my reach. But I guess that makes me different from style and from the other PUA's in that.... I HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE. It is stopping me from completely changing myself. Because I don't feel broken. Just in need of some tuning and direction. Also I've struggled with the premise of women bieng the sole motivation for this self improvement. Women are important to me, but they are not everything. I want to be respected by my fellows. I want to have meaningful conversations about life's biggest questions. I want to figure the game for myself, I dont want to be spooned the ability to attract women. I want to be more than anything, loved for being myself. Will this prevent me from ever being a PUA? Are having fun whilst occasionally playing the fool and being good with attractive women mutually exclusive? Can I be and do both? I live in London. In an amazing flat near old street, Islington, Shoreditch very close to Fabric the nightclub. I have a great job very close by. I HAVE everything set up. Do I have to sell my soul to get what I want? I really love David D's style, thats pretty natural for me. But whilst I find it easy to raise rapport with women I find it hard to phase shift. Is there anyone a little more experienced, who has maybe dealt with these issues that wants to chat? Yours sincerely, Ben AFC

Author:	vicparkguy83 [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:50 pm ]
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You should have a minimalist approach to all this stuff, dont change everything just change whats wrong, keep as much "you" in you as possible. Indentify your weaknesses and ONLY change those things, dont fix it if it ain't broke. For example before I started game I wss a real natural opener, but then i learnt about game and was following it to the letter, started doing all these shit canned openers and my opening got worse. Pre-pua my weakness was midgame, so that's all i needed to work on, keep the rest as it is.

Author:	GamesSN [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Newbie Problem With Game
You don't have to change yourself, just realise a few truths. Truth 1: You can walk up to a girl, any girl, and 9 times out of 10 she's going to respond well if you're confident and approach without coming across as a threat. Opinion openers are great for this. Truth 2: Women aren't evil, they just seem that way. They're not going to bitch about you or hang you out to dry because you said hello. Truth 3: It really isn't you, it's her. She just isn't into you for her own reasons. Should you take offence to that? Fuck no! Some women don't like Brad Pitt, does that make him ugly or does that mean there's something wrong with him? Hell no. Truth 4: You fuck up... a lot. We all do, PUAs don't. They learn the tells, the situations and how to act and react to close a woman. PUAs go through a lot of trial and error but the difference is they learn from it and improve upon their frame, game and their experiences which carry on through to future encounters where they learn how to handle it. Pick Up is about picking up women. It's not about relationships, that's a different ballpark altogether. If you want to be a PUA you need a specific mind frame: "I just want to fuck a different woman every night." However, just because you don't want to fuck different women every night doesn't mean you can't use Pick Up. You can apply it to random encounters, how to woo your target(Potential girlfriend) and then be the real you with her once you have her hooked. You don't have to change who you are or your mentality for this, just make sure you're confident, know what to do and know it's okay to be a prick every now and then and not take things too seriously or to heart.

Author:	GamesSN [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Newbie Problem With Game
Quote: You should have a minimalist approach to all this stuff, dont change everything just change whats wrong, keep as much "you" in you as possible. Indentify your weaknesses and ONLY change those things, dont fix it if it ain't broke. For example before I started game I wss a real natural opener, but then i learnt about game and was following it to the letter, started doing all these shit canned openers and my opening got worse. Pre-pua my weakness was midgame, so that's all i needed to work on, keep the rest as it is. I like this, it's quite solid. I was too shy to open before PU. My mid-game was great but I couldn't open so I generally only progressed once a girl approached me, showed interest and I could build rapport with them. I sucked at closing altogether.

Author:	Jay (Majik) [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Newbie Problem With Game
Quote: I've recently read the game. And I'm sure like everybody else who has ever read it, I feel enlightened. But I'm not practicing it's message. The changes I have made a superficial on the scale of getting more attractive women. It had allowed me to define everything I was previously doing, it has allowed me the ability to review and therefore improve my game. See I've never been 'bad' with women. I just want to improve my reach. But I guess that makes me different from style and from the other PUA's in that.... I HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE. It is stopping me from completely changing myself. Because I don't feel broken. Just in need of some tuning and direction. Also I've struggled with the premise of women bieng the sole motivation for this self improvement. Women are important to me, but they are not everything. I want to be respected by my fellows. I want to have meaningful conversations about life's biggest questions. I want to figure the game for myself, I dont want to be spooned the ability to attract women. I want to be more than anything, loved for being myself. Will this prevent me from ever being a PUA? Are having fun whilst occasionally playing the fool and being good with attractive women mutually exclusive? Can I be and do both? I live in London. In an amazing flat near old street, Islington, Shoreditch very close to Fabric the nightclub. I have a great job very close by. I HAVE everything set up. Do I have to sell my soul to get what I want? I really love David D's style, thats pretty natural for me. But whilst I find it easy to raise rapport with women I find it hard to phase shift. Is there anyone a little more experienced, who has maybe dealt with these issues that wants to chat? Yours sincerely, Ben AFC Don't worry about being a "pick up artist." Be someone who's great with women.

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Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Newbie Problem With Game
Quote: Don't worry about being a "pick up artist." Be someone who's great with women. This, every time.

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