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| Author: | 7000 [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Do we overcomplicate all this? |
I don't often post my own threads, but I was just reading a different post talking about attraction and comfort and "sequences" which they should come in. Before that I read a post which was discussing hot girls giving us shit tests. Now, a lot of this theory is decent and is actually representative of how interactions work. But I think sometimes people make a couple of mistakes in applying it/worrying too much about it. Firstly, I think a lot of the theory is viewed the wrong way around almost. Sometimes I think people get so worried about the theory that they don't realise a lot of it should be fall-back material, or to help you flag up issues in certain situations. Shit tests for example. If I wrote an example story, you would all be able to identify what the shit test in the scenario was. But how often do girls consciously set a shit test? I think very rarely. Often it's just the girl doing something subconsciously, or which she now naturally does now because she doesn't want to waste her time with some wuss. But why do guys get so worked up about shit tests? You shouldn't even really be thinking about them pre-interaction. It's good to know about them, because then when a girl shit tests you, you are aware of what's going on and know not to act like a wuss or can act accordingly to solve the problem. But thinking about things like shit tests isn't useful. Just push them out of your mind. Just know that some girls will shit test you, and that you shouldn't just bow down to them when they do. That's all you need to know about shit tests - what they are, and the mental state you need to be in to "pass" the test. Now, this sort of leads on to my second point which is the more important one. I read a post talking about sequences of when and how to interact with women. When to build attractions, when to build rapport, when to do this this and that etc. I think people forget that women are humans. They aren't some other type of animal. Just talk to the girl like she's a normal human being. Again, having the knowledge and a basic idea about what rapport is, what comfort is etc. is good because you get the general idea of how and what you should be doing generally. But don't get bogged down in them. Don't be worrying about them. Just talk to the girl, enjoy the interaction. Mechanically trying to go through different stages of an interaction isn't going to help you all that much. Girls aren't some online form where you can just tick the boxes to move on to the next stage and end up in bed with them. It needs to be a far more natural experience. General idea of what things like attraction and comfort are + realising that women want sex as much as us + interacting with them like humans rather than a machine which needs a certain code to get into its pants = a lot more success than trying to piece together some sort of routine where everything comes step by step in a certain order. |
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| Author: | BrandonMarshall [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do we overcomplicate all this? |
you're exactly right.... you need to learn all of this shit and then clear your mind. Women aren't a math problem.... |
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| Author: | hugge [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do we overcomplicate all this? |
You are so right. All you need to do to pass shit tests is to know who you are, what you want, what you think is right and stand up for it. |
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| Author: | Il-Cavalieri [ Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do we overcomplicate all this? |
Precisely so. From my experience, most of all, PUA helped me with my mental game. Sure, techniques, routines, escalations, etc. all have limited usefullness. For exemple, a good text from a text game handbook may be better than something you come up with and some of the psichological stuff you learn, like IOI's, how to escalate, etc, may help you get more results. But for me the main difference came from the confidence boost. When I was an AFC I was intimidated by beautiful women. They all said I was funny, some of them said I was cute, but I never escalated or run any game. I just froze and remained safe in the friendzone. The moment I started studing PUA (which coincided with me finishing college and, consequently, reinventing myself due to the substantial income increase it brings) everything changed. It did not changed because of routines, moves or canned openers. In the field I hardly remembered them. It changed because I was not an AFC with bad hair and an untucked shirt bought at the supermarket. I was an impeccably dressed guy, with an expensive watch and, above all, a game plan. That confidence boost was all I needed, the rest came naturally. |
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