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Author:  zwiggelbig [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Can't seem to fix my club game
Hey guys my club game really sucks ass and I am trying to improve it so badly but withouth luck. I need some boosts. I just checked out the pick up series from dancefloor seduction. Sometimes I see 2 guys who look so dam good and I think their just awesome naturals. Then I see them gaming and they just suck.. Then I see some lesser good lucking guys who really does game according to rules and he has much more luck. This gives me the confidince that it is improvable!.

Saturday I went out. Before I went I checked some pus video's, I dressed myself up the best I could and in my inner game I thought I was good lucking this night and I am not that guy anymore who keeps thinking nobody wants him cozz he looks so not attractive. ( inner game not saying it was true :P )

First up I see a girl standing alone in red. I go up to her and I say :'' Hey, you look really nice... red'' She looked strange and looked away and I failed with a really sucky pickup line.

The whole time in the club I am thinking about what to say as a pick up line and then what to say in the first 2 minutes.. I am not the type of guy that can do it with just dancing with a girl. I don't feel comfortable with that and I won't ever get that confidence. I really need to do it with a good pick up line to open it up and not getting looked at strange right away. And then something to say for the first 2 minutes that doesn't involve in ''Hey you live here?'' ''You study around here?'' Most naturals just start dancing behind a girl, but some do go up to her and talk. If anyone here could write down a small conversation you had the last time you did that as an example.. Awesome!

Later I saw 2 girls standing in the smoking area where talking is alot easier. I wanted to go.. But again I just had no clue how to open it. ( and no I really can't see me doing opinion openers in a club like that. at this smoking area it could be good to transition but not to open for me.. ) And at this 2 set I kept thinking the whole time. That it was not a 2 set that I could ever get. Then the next day I see her at a store working. And I open up a talk with her so easy.. And talk to her so easy and she smiled, laugh. This means that my thinking about sets wanting me just sucks in clubs. And I know I just fail in the club when I apply the 3 second rule.

Then outside I see 2 girls sitting on a bench. I was with 2 girl friends and they went off getting the jackets. I did here imply the 3 second rule for the first time! Walked up to them and I was so easy cool.. I said :''Hey girls do you mind if I sit here?'' ''My friends are getting the jackets and if I'm standing their alone I look so friendless! and thats not so cool''. After that I diddn't kept talking non stop to them. I looked away, looked back at me checked what was going on. Then say something to them again. Do the same thing again and I had succse with this! And one of them was stunning. Then the best part is I add her on fb and she said I thought I was really funny.. But all that I just can't take it in the club!!

Guys I hope you can help me out with this. Would really love you all! I am not getting any further in progress.. To make things a bit easier. This was me at this night. Maybe give me some challenges with just one straight up routine I should with one opener and a few lines to say after that and open up like 10 2 sets with that :)

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Author:  skills360 [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
here

http://www.theskillsmethod.com/fundamen ... club-game/

follow my youtube channel on my signature...
Author:  TheFury [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Skills (poster above) has some good stuff on dance floor game. I generally think many so called 'experts' in PUA are actually clueless but I've read his book also and he knows his shit when it comes to club game.
Author:  zwiggelbig [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Thanks skills,

So you hardly never open up verbally? But always just go up to a group and start dancing with them? But what if your a really really bad dancer.. I really suck at approaching a 2 set non verbally.. But I have learned something of RSD Tyler. You can open with anything and fail or you can open with anything and not fail but the diffrence is in how your own mood and energy is
Author:  TheFury [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Quote:
Thanks skills,

So you hardly never open up verbally? But always just go up to a group and start dancing with them? But what if your a really really bad dancer.. I really suck at approaching a 2 set non verbally.. But I have learned something of RSD Tyler. You can open with anything and fail or you can open with anything and not fail but the diffrence is in how your own mood and energy is
Learn to dance. But there are techniques for bad dancers, I think skills covers them in his videos. I'm not a great dancer (though I can keep the beat) but I still do well in club game.
Author:  skills360 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Quote:
Thanks skills,

So you hardly never open up verbally? But always just go up to a group and start dancing with them? But what if your a really really bad dancer.. I really suck at approaching a 2 set non verbally.. But I have learned something of RSD Tyler. You can open with anything and fail or you can open with anything and not fail but the diffrence is in how your own mood and energy is

You can learn to dance, just like i did, i was not a dancer or you can follow warped mindless approach, not my style:

easy-dance-floor-game-for-non-dancers-vt138565.html
Author:  zwiggelbig [ Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Quote:
Quote:
Thanks skills,

So you hardly never open up verbally? But always just go up to a group and start dancing with them? But what if your a really really bad dancer.. I really suck at approaching a 2 set non verbally.. But I have learned something of RSD Tyler. You can open with anything and fail or you can open with anything and not fail but the diffrence is in how your own mood and energy is

You can learn to dance, just like i did, i was not a dancer or you can follow warped mindless approach, not my style:

easy-dance-floor-game-for-non-dancers-vt138565.html
Thanks for that! Yea was checking out some hip hop footwork moves you can really learn it if you put some time in it!

Now I went out yesterday, I first just walked up to a girl told her to put her drink from her right hand in her left hand and then give me a hand so i could introduce myself. but after that I did not really had a good way to transition?

I told myself that I am first going out a few times with a few simple canned openers and just open up alot of girls and try to do one simple transition and leave it with their. I notice that I got to much game theory in my head and I should do things one by one. So your dance game will be after a few more steps :)

Now can you guys give me some ways you like to transition when you DO just open up with some talking and not straiight up dancing?

Btw at the end of the night I saw a really nice blond girl alone and I just passed her and stopped and said she had a really nice watch. And I managed to talk some bullshit crap but I did no kino and so when you talk alot withouth kino you fail 9 out of 10?
Author:  eaglecondor [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Hey thanks zwiggelbig for the post and Skills for your reply! After a weekend of clubbing I needed this! Great stuff Skills, I never thought about "the dancing monkey," I think it's been me! haha I can dance for sure but just like your post says it doesn't lead to girls because we over do it and we need to run more standard club game... Thank you I'll work on this.
Author:  skills360 [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Quote:
Hey thanks zwiggelbig for the post and Skills for your reply! After a weekend of clubbing I needed this! Great stuff Skills, I never thought about "the dancing monkey," I think it's been me! haha I can dance for sure but just like your post says it doesn't lead to girls because we over do it and we need to run more standard club game... Thank you I'll work on this.

Well, it does work if you do it minimally, if you are seen too much, you start to become use furniture and kills the novelty...

It is good to do it to peacock, but not to over do it...
Author:  zwiggelbig [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Went out this week and I managed to have some small talk with the bartender to get in a flow and then open up a 3 set. When i'm with friends and I want to introduce a girl to a friend of mine cozz he is hopeless I notice that I find it really easy to go into a set and stop using stupid opening lines!

I opened up a 3 set and things went well. I first talked to the girl I opened then asked a question to the rest. Did a funny palm reading on a other girl I did not wanted, then went back to my target. Asked her if she thought you could find romance in a club.

So it kinda went like this:
Opening
Reason why I'm their and telling them that I want to introduce one to my friend
ask question to all of them of where they are from and how they know eachother (can you do this in a question form or should this be an assumption? If so like what..)
short Palm reading routine

And after this I was just standing their dancing a bit and just diddnt knew what to say anymore. I get stuck their.
So should you try to get to know the girl actually over their? I can't believe yet that they like talks when you want to get to know her. Even if you do it in assumptions but please tell me that I'm wrong.

I could have # closed that after 2 minutes but then it was a flake. I need to work on my mid game but got no idea how
Author:  skills360 [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't seem to fix my club game
Quote:
Went out this week and I managed to have some small talk with the bartender to get in a flow and then open up a 3 set. When i'm with friends and I want to introduce a girl to a friend of mine cozz he is hopeless I notice that I find it really easy to go into a set and stop using stupid opening lines!

I opened up a 3 set and things went well. I first talked to the girl I opened then asked a question to the rest. Did a funny palm reading on a other girl I did not wanted, then went back to my target. Asked her if she thought you could find romance in a club.

So it kinda went like this:
Opening
Reason why I'm their and telling them that I want to introduce one to my friend
ask question to all of them of where they are from and how they know eachother (can you do this in a question form or should this be an assumption? If so like what..)
short Palm reading routine

And after this I was just standing their dancing a bit and just diddnt knew what to say anymore. I get stuck their.
So should you try to get to know the girl actually over their? I can't believe yet that they like talks when you want to get to know her. Even if you do it in assumptions but please tell me that I'm wrong.

I could have # closed that after 2 minutes but then it was a flake. I need to work on my mid game but got no idea how
^ you need to work on a lot of things ^ this approach, specially palm reading, won't get you anywhere... here is a start, read the post and the answer given by jambi to my post (quoting manson)

some-awesome-cliffs-that-will-help-you- ... 69623.html
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