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Author:  Hunter9 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Sink or swim?
Ok guys, so I've recently moved into student accommodation at Uni and there is one girl who has really caught my attention. She's only about a 6 but there is something about her, other than her nice accent. For some reason I want to impress this girl a bit and get her to return the interest in me and have a bit of flirty banter with her but I haven't received any clear IOIs so far. She has had a few guys come up to her whilst dancing and tried to pick her up, one of which was lifting his shirt up and she looked at me sort of scared so I sort of intervened and cock blocked him for her. So does anyone have a suggested gameplan to try and get this girl without looking obvious I'm interested in her to other housemates?
Author:  ChitownMaverick [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:26 am ]
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Flirty banter means she's already attracted to you.

Isolate.

Escalate.
Author:  Hunter9 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:24 am ]
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Yea I know and that's what I want but I need to get her attracted to me first to be able to have flirty banter with her haha
Author:  Hunter9 [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:49 pm ]
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And I can't isolate her because she spends all her time with another person in our halls who is in the same class as her and is becoming good friends with her
Author:  Soy Un Pony Dork [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:24 pm ]
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And I can't isolate her because she spends all her time with another person in our halls who is in the same class as her and is becoming good friends with her
Is she a Siamese twin?
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:10 pm ]
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Hunter, young gun!

Scared virgin to pussy slayer, almost overnight! NICE!

Remember what I said about being a KING?

You say she's always with someone, making it impossible for you to isolate?

Are you afraid of what this 'someone' may think if you approached her boldly?

No that's you, staying in your comfort zone by not doing anything.

Is that how a King would act? Ahhhhh Fuck NO!

Don't wait until everything is just right. It will never be perfect. There will always be challenges, obstacles and less than perfect conditions. So what.

Your letting hot and sexy vibe get its ass kicked by your chicken shit lack of action.

Next time, react before thinking about it. Walk right up to her, say nothing, just eye contact and a smile, extend your hand like your going to shake it, when she goes to take it, turn yours palm up, lift her hand slightly, and lead her aside, SHE WILL FOLLOW! BOOM! Isolated, say/do what ever you want.

Watch all the peasant jaws hit the fucking floor.

Why be afraid of what anyone will say? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t aren't worth listening to anyway. So fuck them.
Author:  Neox00 [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:25 pm ]
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Quote:
Hunter, young gun!

Scared virgin to pussy slayer, almost overnight! NICE!

Remember what I said about being a KING?

You say she's always with someone, making it impossible for you to isolate?

Are you afraid of what this 'someone' may think if you approached her boldly?

No that's you, staying in your comfort zone by not doing anything.

Is that how a King would act? Ahhhhh Fuck NO!

Don't wait until everything is just right. It will never be perfect. There will always be challenges, obstacles and less than perfect conditions. So what.

Your letting hot and sexy vibe get its ass kicked by your chicken shit lack of action.

Next time, react before thinking about it. Walk right up to her, say nothing, just eye contact and a smile, extend your hand like your going to shake it, when she goes to take it, turn yours palm up, lift her hand slightly, and lead her aside, SHE WILL FOLLOW! BOOM! Isolated, say/do what ever you want.

Watch all the peasant jaws hit the fucking floor.

Why be afraid of what anyone will say? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t aren't worth listening to anyway. So fuck them.
Hey buddies

just like what was said before ... just man up and go take what belongs to you ;) , don't wait too much or another one would take your honey ... think about it if you don't do a move she wouldn't make the first move would she ??? i have been in the exact same situation like you and i had girls attracted and interested in me , but by waiting too long i lost that attraction which started at first ... !!! just get in there and ignore the other guys and take her and then amog the other guys by your body language or by ignoring them ;) the rest is a piece of cake
Author:  Il-Cavalieri [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:51 pm ]
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^^^^ What this two guys said.

Think about it his way, if you don't act out of fear she will reject you, you will never get her. The dancefloor thing when you blocked the other dude was a good start. Now just take a leap of faith and go for it. Risking shows balls, and girls love that. That's Alpha Male 101.

Btw, you mentioned you just moved to some kind of student residence. Do you have a private place? I mean, do you have your own room or apartment? If you do, invest a bit on the decor. When you take a girl there (this one or some other) having a good, tidy up and nice decorated crib will take you a lot further than a messed up bed, piles of videogames next to a PC on a coke can littered desk and Heavy Metal posters on the wall.
Author:  Hunter9 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:10 pm ]
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Hey, Great advice guys. Especially Heywoo Jablowme (heh heh) and Cavalieri for the second time, Much appreciated dudes.
When we went out last night I managed to sit with her and then sat between her and her friend later in the night and managed to have a bit of one on one banter which I think went well. We joke on each other and laugh at one another which is pretty cool. We had a bit of Kino and she actually wanted to play hand slaps with me, so following the Kino; later I challenged her to a thumb war which was a laugh too. It was a good night and we got on really well and I done mini-takeaways and tried to get her to jump through my hoops a bit which she mostly complied; grabbing my arm when I turned away to talk to her friend, pretending as if she's blown the luxury of my company for a bit (I was talking to both, so did go back and talk to her obviously).
But after all of these great signs she seemed to get bored after a while when I was talking to her friend on the other side of me and when we came back to our accommodation to get a friend, she decided to stay in and not come back out (another girl who wasn't having fun stopped in too) Was this because I started to bore her? Did the bit of alcohol ware off and she didn't like me anymore? or didn't like me at all? What do you think?

PS We keep having a look and I don't know if there's something there or if it is just me. And do you know anymore little games or DHV things like the thumbwar and slaps sort of things?

Well we're going out in a couple of minutes. Wish me luck men and thanks to everyone again.
Author:  Hunter9 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:14 pm ]
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She also wanted to send a snapchat off my phone to my friends at the start of the night so I gave her my phone and she seen all my top snapchatters were girls and called me a "Playaaaaaa..." so I just looked at her and put my finger of my lips and jokingly "shhhhhhh" (shushed) her. I thought this was good thinking on my feet but I'm not too sure
Author:  Hunter9 [ Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:56 pm ]
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OK guys so the run down of last night goes like this:
(Before I start I'd like to introduce another obstacle; who is a guy and he is also living with us in our accommodation. I call them obstacles but we are actually all friends by the way)
So we went to the bar and had a drink. I sat next to her and we didn't talk much at all, She didn't seem to be bothered about us speaking either.
After a drink we went up to the nightclub and sat for a while, I didn't sit next to her but I got her to add herself on my snapchat*. We got up and watched a few live artists and danced as a group as we usually do (dance-floor-interactions-need-advice-vt169246.html) only exchanging a few glances together. When we sat down in the night club I sat next to her again but she was on her phone most of the time so I sent her a snapchat of me, telling her to get off her phone and socialize, which she did and we talked a little bit and I re-versed her at hand slaps (which went well as we were looking at each other in the eyes a lot and our finger tips were touching so I could wind her up by stroking her hand and making her flinch) but soon enough we had to move 'cause the club was closing so we moved downstairs to the bar again and I sat down first, hoping she would sit next to me. But she didn't, she sat with the girls (with her friend; the female obstacle) and the other guy; the male obstacle sat next to her on the end of the long chair so I was sat with a bunch of guys (which we still had a laugh and mocked the dance moves of one of the dancers and stuff) and then it was a bunch of girls with him sitting next to her on the end; 3 people between me and her. She sent me snapchats of the two of them together (male obstacle and her) and I thought of a plan to get her to come and sit with me, using snapchat at my tool. I sent her a snapchat saying "You're lucky you're sitting over there" she replied with "How?" and I was going to reply with a picture of my thumb and a message saying "Because my thumb is primed for war" teasing her to come over and have our prearranged thumb war; getting her from between the two obstacles. But I never got to see how successful it could have been as my phone died before I sent it.
The male obstacle got up to dance and tried to get the girls and people to dance too, I got up with the guys I was sitting with and danced with him before we left for home
When we got home she got changed into sweats and took off her make-up straight away, joined us in the kitchen and didn't continue drinking and sat, playing on her phone a lot. I tried to get her to come over to me so I could tease her a bit but she just denied me and stayed doing what she was doing, the male obstacle teased her a bit and got a hug from her before she went to bed.
SO MANY MIXED SIGNALS! NOW I'M SITTING, STRESSED AND FEELING SHITTY, which I shouldn't!

*Snapchat is a phone app that allows you to send a photo to a friend with a caption and the other person can view it for up to 10 seconds
Author:  Hunter9 [ Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:06 pm ]
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And another thing is that me and the male obstacle bought the girls (3 of them) drinks all night. I bought my target a drink and he bought the (unmentioned by me) 3rd girl a drink each time and we took turns on getting the female obstacle's drink. I pretty much had to help him buy them to not look like a bit of a dick.

The group dynamic seems to be that I am the Leader/ Alpha male and he is the fun one, which I am usually the funny guy in the group and although I come out with good jokes and get some laughs, I can't compete with him. I feel like they are much closer to him and he has been shopping with them and all sorts without me and he messages/ texts them quite often.
I get on with him a lot and he's a great lad and thinks I am too but I can't help but see him as a competitor in the girls eyes which is strange.

So now I'm feeling a bit confused and antisocial and I'm due to go out again tonight with the people in my accommodation
Author:  Hunter9 [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:45 pm ]
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Hey Guys, The latest situation in the house is so mixed I haven't got a clue what is going on. Need help if you can. The male obstacle who I'm close to was in my room the other day and I'm 80% sure he said something along the lines of the 3rd girl might like him, the 2nd girl (female obstacle) said she likes me to him, and then I like the first girl; my target (No one knows this though, I have tried to hide it from everyone I live with) and I don't have a fucking clue who my target likes, if anyone, because I can't read any signals from her 'cause sometimes we got on awesome and other times we don't and I feel to conscious to take risks because she isn't much of a pushover or too approachable at times.

And whilst all this is happening; The male obstacle, my friend is having HIGH kino with all of them pretty much and is even in the 2nd girl's (female obstacle, who apparently likes me) bedroom for a bit on a night, and have spooned before. And my target doesn't seem comfortable talking about anything sexual or even much invasion of personal space on a joke level, I've had Kino if it is socially acceptable like when talking in a loud club or her jokingly trying to help me up. And I think I'm acting different infront of the 2nd girl due to knowing she might like me. This is fucked up.

SOS guys. Thanks again.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:16 am ]
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I feel to conscious to take risks
Target ALL of them.
Author:  Hunter9 [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:36 am ]
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[quote="Heywood Jablowme"][quote="Hunter9"]I feel to conscious to take risks [/quote]

Target ALL of them.[/quote]


That Is possibly the best, simplest advice I could have gotten. How can I game someone I live with, any tips? Gaming a girl in a club lasts a few minutes, this is 24/7 so I don't know enough routines and stuff as I'm still inexperienced, so what can I do to increase my chances and transition from Leader to fun and flirty dude that could be seen as potentially sexual?

Cheers, Heywood.
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