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| Author: | Jev [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Best outer game method? |
Ok there's about a million methods out there and then a lot of other people think its solely about inner game. I've downloaded a whole load of books and all that stuff on a lot of methods. I know it's a waste of time to get loads of stuff and just read it without applying any of the methods properly. I'm often too much of a perfectionist, wanting to know the perfect method and how I can integrate all of them. Instead I just want to follow one method solely and try that out. So before I waste time and read all of them, can you guys help me out and tell me which method for outer game you have found to have the most success on women? Evidence of how it changed your success would be appreciated. Cheers |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best outer game method? |
The best method will always be the one that is congruent to your current personality and physical attributes. Of course, personalities tend to change via self improvement and physical attributes change with proper exercise, diet and grooming. If you think you're masculine enough, start with something simple like Warp Mindless' ESP Escalation Model and then progress on your direct game with something more sophisticated like 60 YoC. You can eventually progress to the Stelar Method once you have a solid masculine frame. If you think you're not masculine enough since you grew up in a household where your mom is the dominant figure or played too much Dungeons and Dragons instead of basketball or martial arts, then you can start with indirect game like the Mystery Method or even MACK Tactics. I must warn you though that the MACK Tactics verbal and kino escalation techniques are very gay. The verbal routines are too long like these are being delivered by a girl while the kinos are executed in a faggoty way. If you have enough money for club game at least 3x a week, learn seduction dance from Skills360. If you will only game once a week in the club, then the reference experiences that you need to calibrate your game might not come fast enough in sufficient quantities. Say, if you have to wait 6 days before you can game again and only gamed 2 women the last time, then you'll progress at a snail's pace. The ideal sarging frequency should be 7x a week with at least 10 new girls a day. Get this frequency running for 30 to 60 days and you'll get very good results. I'm talking from experience btw so there's nothing theoretical with this post. |
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| Author: | hugge [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best outer game method? |
When I started "gaming", I tried to relate all techniques to things "normal" people (non-PUAs like my parents) have told me through my life. This way I learned what each technique is trying to accomplish. Try to go to a club with more mature people (40+) and watch how they interact. Compare their behavior with all techniques you have learned. They are probably not pickup experts, but they do know a thing or two about social interaction and how to behave. What can you learn from them? At least how to open without being rejected, and how to have a normal conversation. By being normal in this sense, not trying to pick anyone up, not trying to impress and so on, you will automatically become more smooth and do what PUAs call DHV (as long as you are confident enough to feel that you are equal to the people you talk to). Pickup techniques have a couple of goals in common - try to avoid stupid mistakes people normally do, to mimic the behavior of more socially skilled people, create sexual tension and some other things. Assuming you have basic social skills and can mingle around in a party (think birthday party to take pickup out of the picture), there are some things I recommend:
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| Author: | detox75 [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best outer game method? |
Quote: MACK Tactics
possible the worst PUA material of all time
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| Author: | skills360 [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best outer game method? |
Quote: Ok there's about a million methods out there and then a lot of other people think its solely about inner game.
I've downloaded a whole load of books and all that stuff on a lot of methods. I know it's a waste of time to get loads of stuff and just read it without applying any of the methods properly. I'm often too much of a perfectionist, wanting to know the perfect method and how I can integrate all of them. Instead I just want to follow one method solely and try that out. So before I waste time and read all of them, can you guys help me out and tell me which method for outer game you have found to have the most success on women? Evidence of how it changed your success would be appreciated. Cheers 60 yoc and mark manson models that is pretty much all you need, here i break down the methods, and i got a bunch of free books(like the gun method) that will help your outer game: http://www.theskillsmethod.com/products/ |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best outer game method? |
Most systems have pluses and minuses.. it really depends as hellhound said on what is most congruent with your personality.I just wrote an article about the 3 C's of pickup .. congruence is one of them. A system can work for many guys but if it isn't congruent with who you are it will fail miserably. |
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