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Author:  bartm [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  my first flake
Hi guys
I am feeling really down now :(

a few days ago, I posted about my first number close. if you want to read about it, here it is:
i-got-my-first-number-ever-vt167865.html

so today I called her, and here is how the conversation went:

me: Hi, this is Bart
her: who?
me: Bart. remember? you gave me your number at the store the other day? we were going to grab coffee together?
her: from where?
me: at the store?
her: oh, yeah. how are you?
me: good.
her: listen, you called too late. I am going to texas tomorrow for 3 months.
me: when?
her: tomorrow morning
me: oh, that sucks.
her: I know.

then I dont remember the rest, but basically, we said good bye. she also wished me happy new year (it's new year for jews)

so I dont know what happened. did she think about it for a while and realize "I dont wanna date this dirty jew?" [in my country, jews are minorities and most people dont like them]
was I being needy?
what could I have done differently?
I dont get it, this sucks. I feel so pissed right now :(
Author:  Rocko the trucker [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
If one rejection fires you up you won't succeed with women. This is just part of the deal. It seems you didn't leave a strong impression when you n closed. I say this because it seems she forgot who you were. Don't get angry. Learn from it and move forward. When I miss a shot playing basketball I don't get mad. I adjust my aim and try again.

Try to leave a bigger impression next time. This girl just may have not been interested. It happens. I couldn't count the number of times I've been rejected. Some were worse than others but I laugh at them all now. Their loss.
Author:  bartm [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
Quote:
If one rejection fires you up you won't succeed with women. This is just part of the deal. It seems you didn't leave a strong impression when you n closed. I say this because it seems she forgot who you were. Don't get angry. Learn from it and move forward. When I miss a shot playing basketball I don't get mad. I adjust my aim and try again.

Try to leave a bigger impression next time. This girl just may have not been interested. It happens. I couldn't count the number of times I've been rejected. Some were worse than others but I laugh at them all now. Their loss.
yeah, I guess I was pretty mundane when I got her number.
So how do I leave a bigger impression? what is the girl supposed to be thinking when you get her number? is she supposed to think "I want this guy's cock so bad", or what?
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
Feel the pain bro. Let the experience drive you. Don't take it personally. She isn't just horny enough for you.

Rarely do first numbers turn into an actual date. Many guys here only get 2-3 dates out of 10 numbers.

You'll be sharper for every rejection. Learn how to read the signs. Learn how to project masculine body language. Learn how to DHV. Learn how to give girls fun. Learn how to make girls qualify themselves to you. Learn how to make girls horny.

Your flake rate will go down to almost zero when you get so good at this.

:twisted:
Author:  Gabriel Angelo [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
bartm, from reading this I already see where you messed this up from when you said:

me: Bart. remember? you gave me your number at the store the other day? we were going to grab coffee together?

Think of it this way, this gal just met you and gave you her number so she probably does this all the time. It's not uncommon for girls to give their number out anymore.

When she asked you who, and you gave your long reason response already killed the attraction and interest.

I would have teased her about it and had fun with it.

For example:
Her: Who?

Me: Your prince charming!
Me: The sexy beast.

And let her try to solve the mystery of who this is.

You gave it away too easy to who you were and killed the fire for a potential fuel-fun text interaction.

Prolong the mystery, punish her to make her work to discover who the mysterious texter is.
Author:  mixar [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
Quote:

I would have teased her about it and had fun with it.

For example:
Her: Who?

Me: Your prince charming!
Me: The sexy beast.

And let her try to solve the mystery of who this is.

You gave it away too easy to who you were and killed the fire for a potential fuel-fun text interaction.

Prolong the mystery, punish her to make her work to discover who the mysterious texter is.

I totally agree with this approach.

From the first day you get the number, text them to remind them who you are.
Ive been using game for maybe 10 months. My very first number didn't even reply to any texts or my call.
My next 2 numbers have resulted in around 8 dates in 4 months. My text text game isn't flawless, however its always fun and memorable for the girls. Calibrated to the girl, and never too needy.

Read as many text game threads for ideas. Just remember once you get the number text her like an hour later. Tell a.joke, remind her of something you spoke about so you have a connection to each other.

Keep trying and you will get better at this!
Cheers
Mixar.
Author:  TheFury [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
Quote:
Hi guys
I am feeling really down now :(

a few days ago, I posted about my first number close. if you want to read about it, here it is:
i-got-my-first-number-ever-vt167865.html

so today I called her, and here is how the conversation went:

me: Hi, this is Bart
her: who?
me: Bart. remember? you gave me your number at the store the other day? we were going to grab coffee together?
her: from where?
me: at the store?
her: oh, yeah. how are you?
me: good.
her: listen, you called too late. I am going to texas tomorrow for 3 months.
me: when?
her: tomorrow morning
me: oh, that sucks.
her: I know.

then I dont remember the rest, but basically, we said good bye. she also wished me happy new year (it's new year for jews)

so I dont know what happened. did she think about it for a while and realize "I dont wanna date this dirty jew?" [in my country, jews are minorities and most people dont like them]
was I being needy?
what could I have done differently?
I dont get it, this sucks. I feel so pissed right now :(
Don't worry about it, flakes happen a lot. But you got some good feedback that you waited too long, so now you can adjust your game and learn.
Author:  DboTheHero [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
Who's to say you did anything wrong? If she genuinely is going to Texas for 3 months the next day, no amount of game can help you.
Author:  RealMe [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: my first flake
The initial part of gaming of the girl is most shaky. One bad move backfires tremendously - and when you are not experienced then its highly probable the bad move will happen. Just get another #, you will use your experience and inevitably you will not make anything bad in this short initial part. Once the girl gets horny for you (during first two dates), you will be destined for (at least) months of constant sex because she will idealize you and bad moves will be rationalized in her mind.
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