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Author:  JTQatar [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:48 am ]
Post subject:  How to explain pick up to parents?
I know this is a quite unusual question but maybe you have some idea.
Since i started learning about pick up and actually using it to get my dreamgirl, my mom asked me questions about it. I tried to explain to her that getting better with girls is something you can learn and that many many men have problems getting girls or talking to girls. But she always says that there is nothing to learn and that everything will come naturally and you just have to be yourself. In her opinion everything will come from alone if there is a man and a girl who are attracted to each other. And she never heard of any men who have problems picking up girls because its the most natural thing in the world.
When i tell her about "opening" or "routines" or that being to nice and friendly will actually get you nowhere she just cant understand and thinks that all this is retarded because all this is something a man has to know naturally.
How can i explain the whole pick up thing to her so she understands what its about and that its actually a useful and helpful thing that will influence your life in a positive way?
Author:  ChitownMaverick [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
If you're so desperate for approval from your own mother, how exactly do you expect to have any success with women you actually want to have sex with? Assuming of course you don't want to have sex with your mother...

Seriously though, why do you care what your mom thinks about pick-up? Of course she told you to just be yourself, she's a girl and that's what 99% of them say. They aren't men and don't understand what life is like for a man, just as we can only guess at what life is like for a woman. They have no idea and their dating advice blows. That's why PUA started, remember? Because societal (Feminist) dating advice doesn't actually work?

They're (generally) not giving you shitty advice on purpose, it's just that 99% of women are solipsistic and cannot begin to understand how another human besides herself actually views and operates in the world. When they tell you that you'll get laid if you just have fun and be yourself, it's because that works for THEM! They have no idea that life is different outside their Girl Brain.

Step One for you: Stop caring whether women approve of what you do with your free time and resources. That one step will take you farther than the best DHV routine on the planet.
Author:  Defy [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
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she always says that there is nothing to learn and that everything will come naturally and you just have to be yourself. In her opinion everything will come from alone if there is a man and a girl who are attracted to each other. And she never heard of any men who have problems picking up girls because its the most natural thing in the world.
lol. it's funny how some people believe in this.
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When i tell her about "opening" or "routines" or that being to nice and friendly will actually get you nowhere she just cant understand and thinks that all this is retarded because all this is something a man has to know naturally.How can i explain the whole pick up thing to her so she understands what its about and that its actually a useful and helpful thing that will influence your life in a positive way?
like the guy above said, who cares what other people, incuding your mother think. And if you try to explain her by explaining her what the opener is, of course she is going to think that is stupid. Do you thing, and then day you mom will just say Wow, your posture is different, or you vocal projection is different, or that girl I brought home is really good looking, or something like that. At this moment, you can tell her about the Game, if she wanted to know how and why you've changed.

But, the bottom line to doing everything in life is If you believe that is the right thing for you, nothing matters anymore. I recently read a funny thing: In life, you don't get grades like you do in school. The reason for that is that only you can decide if something is good for you, or not.
Author:  JTQatar [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
Thanks guys but i think you got something wrong here.
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If you're so desperate for approval from your own mother, how exactly do you expect to have any success with women you actually want to have sex with? Assuming of course you don't want to have sex with your mother...
Im not looking for any approval from nobody. But seriously what should i tell her when she asks me? SHE asks ME! For example when i was reading "The Game" she was like "What are you reading there?" So i tried to explain what its about... Of course a mother wants to know what her child is doing and why it changed.

I just find it really funny that she cant understand what its about and why this whole pick up thing even exists. She is like "When i was young we did not have problems like this. If a boy liked a girl he knew what to do and what not. If it works it works if it doesnt it doesnt, you cant influence that"
Even funnier because i know mom was a real stunner when she was young, like a real 9 or 10. Of course she cant understand because she never had problems with guys i guess haha...

So i guess i should just stop trying to explain?
Author:  pumpington [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
probably a waste of time for you to explain this to your mom beyond you are looking for dates and trying to get better at making a good first impression while dating
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
A mom is not going to understand no more than a little sister would or the majority of other women for that matter. Which is the reason why we are all here. Ask a woman what she looks for in a man and it will be the complete opposite of the guy she is currently sleeping with. Everyone isn't born with "it" some people have to learn. No explanations are necessary, she won't get it. Although, I'm not even sure you know why you want to get into this. Try explaining it to youself.
Author:  cerebralassassin [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
i wouldnt even bother.. just say your going out!

do you really want to explain any concepts from FTC to isolating to your mother..... no not really so dont get into it
Author:  JTQatar [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
Okay guys thanks for your replies!
Again its not like im sitting here and thinking "Damn i want to tell my mother about pick up so bad, but how can i explain it to her" ! I was just wondering what to tell her or how to answer when she asks me about it and what all those books are that im reading. Anyways, i will just tell her its about getting better with girls or some...
Thanks
Author:  yello_fever [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
Women can never understand pickup. My best friend is a girl, and ever since studying pickup about three months ago, my pulls have gone up so freaking much. When she asks what I'm doing and I explain, she responds with things like "That's not gonna work." "If two people like each others, then why do they need to play games?" "What? I LOVE IT WHEN GUYS BUY ME DRINKS" etc.

It's so frustrating because she always asks but she doesn't like the answers I'm giving. This is why many people think pickup is a joke, and why there is PUA hate around. Girls can not understand because THEY are the ones who are getting approached left and right just by doing nothing. They have no idea what it's like to be standing in the corner of a club like a loser, staring at all the hot girls dancing with some hot guys.

Not only should you not try to explain pickup to your mom, or other girls, but also, not even to other guys. Most people are really closed minded. If a person is ready, he'll be ready. One of my coworkers know I do this, and I told him what books to read. He hasn't read any of them in the past three months because he's lazy. He thinks pickup is about memorizing a bunch of lines and has no idea how much reading and in-field rejections I had to take in. I have another friend who I introduced "The Game" to when I first started reading it, and he refused to believe it works. I've been picking up girls right in front of him and he says he doesn't like how I'm not "being myself." Screw that. Being myself didn't get me laid left and right!
Author:  Soy Un Pony Dork [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
Lol you could have some fun with this.

Ask her if a man has ever bought her a drink at a bar to meet her, and then ask her how far he got.

Ask her how many of her friends have ever pulled her away from a guy who was hitting on her.

Ask her if she was ever hit on by a guy that made her feel uncomfortable.

Then ask her if she feels like all a man has to do is act natural.
Author:  ChitownMaverick [ Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
OP, your mom is half-right. Men in our generation has completely lost touch with what it means to be masculine, which is what she's describing when she said "when I was young men just knew what to do." She's right. They had good male role models and weren't afraid of offending Feminists by approaching and talking to women they didn't know, it's just how you met girls.

Nowadays, our culture has failed the world-wide shit test and men are starting to act like girls. We have nowhere to turn besides the internet and PUA. She will never understand this, it's like explaining to an old person what the internet does.

Her: "What are you reading?"

You: "Oh, this cool book about dating."

Her: "Like what kind of stuff does it say?"

You: "You know, stuff like where to take girls, whether to buy them drinks, that kind of thing."

I have no idea why you feel compelled to honestly answer every question she asks you in full detail. That's really REALLY going to work against you, so stop doing it.
Author:  TheFury [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How to explain pick up to parents?
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I know this is a quite unusual question but maybe you have some idea.
Since i started learning about pick up and actually using it to get my dreamgirl, my mom asked me questions about it. I tried to explain to her that getting better with girls is something you can learn and that many many men have problems getting girls or talking to girls. But she always says that there is nothing to learn and that everything will come naturally and you just have to be yourself. In her opinion everything will come from alone if there is a man and a girl who are attracted to each other. And she never heard of any men who have problems picking up girls because its the most natural thing in the world.
When i tell her about "opening" or "routines" or that being to nice and friendly will actually get you nowhere she just cant understand and thinks that all this is retarded because all this is something a man has to know naturally.
How can i explain the whole pick up thing to her so she understands what its about and that its actually a useful and helpful thing that will influence your life in a positive way?
not sure why you care/want to. She is clearly set in her beliefs but how about telling her running is also a natural activity but you can still become much better at it if you train and practice etc. etc.
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