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Author:  zency [ Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Question about The Art Of Seduction book

Hi guys.
I was reading this book. It is a very good source for seduction. I loved most of it. But there is something confusing.
Quote:
There are two ways to prove yourself. First, the spontaneous action: a
situation arises in which the target needs help, a problem needs solving, or,
simply, he or she needs a favor. You cannot foresee these situations, but you
must be ready for them, for they can spring up at any time. Impress the target by going further than really necessary sacrificing more money, more
time, more effort than they had expected. Your target will often use these moments, or even manufacture them, as a kind of test: will you retreat? Or
will you rise to the occasion? You cannot hesitate or flinch, even for a moment, or all is lost. If necessary, make the deed seem to have cost you more
than it has, never with words, but indirectly exhausted looks, reports
spread through a third party, whatever it takes.
The second way to prove yourself is the brave deed that you plan and
execute in advance, on your own and at the right moment preferably
some way into the seduction, when any doubts the victim still has about
you are more dangerous than earlier on. Choose a dramatic, difficult action
that reveals the painful time and effort involved. Danger can be extremely
seductive. Cleverly lead your victim into a crisis, a moment of danger, or
indirectly put them in an uncomfortable position, and you can play the rescuer, the gallant knight. The powerful feelings and emotions this elicits can
easily be redirected into love.

(The Art Of Seduction - pg: 324)
Isn't it something reverse what we learnt in comminity? Which way is true? What do you think about it?

Author:  LD [ Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about The Art Of Seduction book

Hey mate,

I think you make a very good remark here.

the quote is almost the opposite of what is being taught in the pua community. But here it comes: PUA is not exactly the same as seduction. Meditate on that.

Besides, the entire book (i have it, i call it the one and only bible) should be put into the correct context. The order in which the laws appear is not random. The book is not a random set of pickup routines. It is about seduction, maninulating the thoughts of somebody else in your favor, exploiting the flaws and cracks in the lives of other people.

Also, the book is about the basic idea behind a certain law. Don't forget that the examples put are almost always from way back in time. But the idea behind it never really dies.

cheers

Author:  zency [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about The Art Of Seduction book

Hi LD.
Yes the book is about seduction but i think PUA is also fast seduction.

I have a girl who is after me for 2 years because i refused to hold her coat :) She still offen reminds me that day :) and tells this story to our every mutual friends.
Besides, i had heard stories like: a girl asks a strange man or her neighbor for help to carry her packeges to her place. Then she invites him to drink a cup of coffee. Suddenly they start to kiss and finally have sex.

It seems that it works somehow in two ways. But it may fail if i refuse a quality confident girl and she will never chase me. And it may fail if someone carry packeges of a selfish egoist girls :)

It is hard to choose the proper way but i think basic idea behind this may be not being needy in your actions and to be aware of the girls' intention.

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