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Author:  aegis1 [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Guy game

My searches didn't find posts on applying specific PUA techniques to pursuing non-sexual friendships with men. I'd especially like to befriend the best friend of a girl I recently went on a Day 2 with (and made out with), who is male. So far he's friendly enough, but I want to form a stronger bond. The Game mentions that RSD was interested in "guy game" at one point. Has anyone looked into this systematically?

Author:  .Sage. [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

Your first mistake is searching for advice on how to game friends. If they are friendly, you are friends. If they like who you are as a person and enjoy spending time with you then you are close friends. That's it.

Author:  Malcolm Thomas [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

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Your first mistake is searching for advice on how to game friends. If they are friendly, you are friends. If they like who you are as a person and enjoy spending time with you then you are close friends. That's it.
This in a nutshell. There is no point in trying to "game" to win friends. Just be a cool, friendly guy and you'll naturally starting meeting and forming new friendships.

Author:  aegis1 [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

Thanks for your thoughts, but "being cool" is not always intuitive for me. Although I'm often liked by guys in a friendly way, I'm not usually the leader, and want to be because this seems to be necessary to gain access to women in connected social circles. I've noticed that some guys do use variations on PUA to increase status among males. In fact, I'm hard-pressed to think of a PUA technique I haven't seen used: I've seen a range of DHVs including story-telling, posture, highly animated expression, takeaways, and even negs. I knew a Satanist who seemed to be a natural at this, constantly storytelling with manic humor. Another guy, an evangelical Christian, was more relaxed, but constantly negged everyone around him, and that worked too (he seemed to derive a narcissistic superiority from his religion, but people liked him, so it seems his confidence won out). The sequence for guys is always different, however--I've never seen a guy open another unknown guy with a neg. Carnegie of course has some material on this, and it does seem that there probably is an ideal method for guys, at least for the first few interactions. The Art of Charm podcast has some (fairly vague) ideas, so there is some more recent movement in that direction. Surely some PUAs look at this at least in the context of mixed sets. Basically, what is proven advice on how to consistently project coolness to guys?

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

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My searches didn't find posts on applying specific PUA techniques to pursuing non-sexual friendships with men. I'd especially like to befriend the best friend of a girl I recently went on a Day 2 with (and made out with), who is male. So far he's friendly enough, but I want to form a stronger bond. The Game mentions that RSD was interested in "guy game" at one point. Has anyone looked into this systematically?
LOL. You're using classic girlie speake in a forum whose members are predominantly men hence, you're getting answers that do not fit in your game plan.

Here's what you're looking for, http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/se ... 78&refine=

That female PUA fairly understands how to sarge men.
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Thanks for your thoughts, but "being cool" is not always intuitive for me. Although I'm often liked by guys in a friendly way, I'm not usually the leader, and want to be because this seems to be necessary to gain access to women in connected social circles. I've noticed that some guys do use variations on PUA to increase status among males. In fact, I'm hard-pressed to think of a PUA technique I haven't seen used: I've seen a range of DHVs including story-telling, posture, highly animated expression, takeaways, and even negs. I knew a Satanist who seemed to be a natural at this, constantly storytelling with manic humor. Another guy, an evangelical Christian, was more relaxed, but constantly negged everyone around him, and that worked too (he seemed to derive a narcissistic superiority from his religion, but people liked him, so it seems his confidence won out). The sequence for guys is always different, however--I've never seen a guy open another unknown guy with a neg. Carnegie of course has some material on this, and it does seem that there probably is an ideal method for guys, at least for the first few interactions. The Art of Charm podcast has some (fairly vague) ideas, so there is some more recent movement in that direction. Surely some PUAs look at this at least in the context of mixed sets. Basically, what is proven advice on how to consistently project coolness to guys?
Are you gay or are you a girl?

I'm asking this because I have several girls neg me before and in the end, I just negged them back harder and stayed away from them for good. Majority of men are attracted to girls who are nice to them. It's the reverse for many women. Women are more attracted to the badboys especially when they're ovulating.

I've also had gays neg me before. One ended up getting several shin kicks to his calf and hamstrings. I have a few gay friends before and I became friends with them because they did nice things for me like giving me a free haircut. Some tried to kino escalate but I stopped them because it's pussy I want; not chicks with big dicks.

:twisted:

Author:  Psydaddy [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

It's easy, if you want to create a connection with a person you have to first ask an opinion about something or ask them for something that you really need (like: do you when classes start?) then leave.
tip: Start with short conversations! And then after awhile make it long!

Also show that you care about the person and you want to help her\his on what she\he needs.
Don't touch the person at all and waste as much time as you can get with the person but don't force it!

Try to find something common to talk about, if the person likes photograph show that you would love to do that, and ask things about it, they'll talk a lot about that!
Never ask questions about what they do for fun and stuff, this is for seduction, but you can ask what they do on that day, and shit.

After awhile start to talk bat about some one that you both might don't like it (this is gold to make a connection) also show some comic youtube movies to each other, make jokes and shit!

If you see that the person is not giving you too much attention then create an excuse to go away but tell that person the excuse.

And you ask me why i know this? Because sometimes you have to become best friend of someone people that are best friends of a girl that has a boyfriend and you don't want them to push you away, hey don't judge me!

Author:  Pickwick [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

^^He's a man who made out with some girl. That girl has a guy friend who he wants to be friends with.

Find what the guy is interested in and show him that you have same interests.

That's why men can't be friends with women: men can find more in common with other men than with women. If it's not sexual and your interests are different, it doesn't make sense to be friends with a woman.

That's why for men you have to have similar interests. From that point, you have to be an easy-going guy and not be a dick.

Author:  Psydaddy [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

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^^He's a man who made out with some girl. That girl has a guy friend who he wants to be friends with.

Find what the guy is interested in and show him that you have same interests.

That's why men can't be friends with women: men can find more in common with other men than with women. If it's not sexual and your interests are different, it doesn't make sense to be friends with a woman.

That's why for men you have to have similar interests. From that point, you have to be an easy-going guy and not be a dick.
Yeh, totaly tru but not this: "That's why men can't be friends with women:" otherwise the word "friendzone" wouldn't exist! With woman you only have to show that you care a lot about her. Also talking about other girls and ask opinions how to get them it's a great step to create a female best friend. Oh and btw, when they give you advises on something, just say that it worked pretty well and you are truly grateful for their advice.

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

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^^He's a man who made out with some girl. That girl has a guy friend who he wants to be friends with.

Find what the guy is interested in and show him that you have same interests.

That's why men can't be friends with women: men can find more in common with other men than with women. If it's not sexual and your interests are different, it doesn't make sense to be friends with a woman.

That's why for men you have to have similar interests. From that point, you have to be an easy-going guy and not be a dick.
Lol. My bad. I assumed it was pretty easy for men to make friends with other men.

On topic: Give the dude a moderate punch to his chest when he tells a joke or a pat on the back and you'll be friends in no time.

:twisted:

Author:  Psydaddy [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

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Lol. My bad. I assumed it was pretty easy for men to make friends with other men.

On topic: Give the dude a moderate punch to his chest when he tells a joke or a pat on the back and you'll be friends in no time.

:twisted:
Dafuq, it is easy! God damn it! You guys are too focused on pickup that you don't look around you, make male friends it's easy there's no pressure! You just need to be with them and help them, easy as it seams.
For more detail read my prevs comments.

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

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Dafuq, it is easy! God damn it! You guys are too focused on pickup that you don't look around you, make male friends it's easy there's no pressure! You just need to be with them and help them, easy as it seams.
For more detail read my prevs comments.
I know it's easy. That's the reason why I thought the OP was some girl who wanted to get laid with a guy. By his more substantial follow up post, I was thinking he was gay. The OP's sentence structures were confusing a bit for me.

:lol:

Author:  aegis1 [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Guy game

I agree the syntax was poor; I'll handle that. Thanks to all for the advice, which is helpful.

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