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| Author: | Spark Plug [ Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | IOI's and Numbers |
Hey guys. There's this girl that I'm interested in and she seems as though she may be interested in me but the IOI's she's been giving me are kinda weak. We hit it off after our school ball and recently she was fishing for my number (which I didn't give her... stupid I know). She's an HB probably an 8 and is obviously single. How do I build attraction with her and escalate to the point where something sexual might happen? Also is there a way where I can get her number now without lowering my value? Should I just straight up ask for it? Any helps appreciated, Thanks guys |
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| Author: | Aptitude [ Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
It seems like she's a shy girl. When looking for IOI's on a shy girl, you have to look for subtle body language signals. What are her feet doing? What are her legs doing? But since she wanted your number the IOI's is now out of the point. She wants you. The next time you see her, just ask her number. If a girl is really interested in you than you can play it easy. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Hey dude, Stop looking for IOI's this is a geeky and ancient pua tactic. True players don't sit around checking for positive signs; they just interpret everything a girl does as a positive and they go after what they want. If you want her, go after her; rejection or not; she'll respect your assertion. |
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| Author: | Spark Plug [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Yeah I get where you're coming from, honestly IOI's come easy to me. Don't get me wrong I fall short in other areas but I can always tell (perhaps better than most people) whether or not a girl is interested. Basically, to me looking for IOI's isn't employing a tactic. It's second nature. Oh yeah and a quick update on the girl I was talking about. We're pretty much FWB now which is pretty sweet |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Quote: Hey dude,
I disagree with this. Frankly, I'm surprised because it is from someone who normally gives good advice on this board. Interpreting IOIs and IODs is important because you use it to adjust your game (i.e. Calibration, one of the most important aspects of pickup) If you get to heavy with kino without enough signs of interest you will just come off as a creep when you could have gotten the girl if you just played it cool a little longer. If you can't identify an IOD, for example, that she is bored with the topic of conversation, you may not switch the topic to something that will get her interested again and you will come off as a boring loser. YOU MUST ALWAYS CALIBRATE.Stop looking for IOI's this is a geeky and ancient pua tactic. True players don't sit around checking for positive signs; they just interpret everything a girl does as a positive and they go after what they want. If you want her, go after her; rejection or not; she'll respect your assertion. Now don't get me wrong, I agree you should always ERR on the side of interpreting the grey areas as IOIs and be assertive and aggressive, but your statement basically implies to hell with calibration, and that is just wrong. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Quote: Quote: Hey dude,
I disagree with this. Frankly, I'm surprised because it is from someone who normally gives good advice on this board. Interpreting IOIs and IODs is important because you use it to adjust your game (i.e. Calibration, one of the most important aspects of pickup) If you get to heavy with kino without enough signs of interest you will just come off as a creep when you could have gotten the girl if you just played it cool a little longer. If you can't identify an IOD, for example, that she is bored with the topic of conversation, you may not switch the topic to something that will get her interested again and you will come off as a boring loser. YOU MUST ALWAYS CALIBRATE.Stop looking for IOI's this is a geeky and ancient pua tactic. True players don't sit around checking for positive signs; they just interpret everything a girl does as a positive and they go after what they want. If you want her, go after her; rejection or not; she'll respect your assertion. Now don't get me wrong, I agree you should always ERR on the side of interpreting the grey areas as IOIs and be assertive and aggressive, but your statement basically implies to hell with calibration, and that is just wrong. I guess what I'm really trying to say is.. I'm not out their trying to get with women, I'm just putting myself into positions for women to try and get with me. Your approach is 100% correct when you are the pursuer, but when you aren't I believe mines is correct. Are hot women calibrating with your every move? Or are you watching them trying to calibrate to them? Women calibrate for me my friend. Not the other way around. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
P.S. nothing is absolute - so the moment you said "always" your statement lost some credibility. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Quote: Quote: Quote: Hey dude,
I disagree with this. Frankly, I'm surprised because it is from someone who normally gives good advice on this board. Interpreting IOIs and IODs is important because you use it to adjust your game (i.e. Calibration, one of the most important aspects of pickup) If you get to heavy with kino without enough signs of interest you will just come off as a creep when you could have gotten the girl if you just played it cool a little longer. If you can't identify an IOD, for example, that she is bored with the topic of conversation, you may not switch the topic to something that will get her interested again and you will come off as a boring loser. YOU MUST ALWAYS CALIBRATE.Stop looking for IOI's this is a geeky and ancient pua tactic. True players don't sit around checking for positive signs; they just interpret everything a girl does as a positive and they go after what they want. If you want her, go after her; rejection or not; she'll respect your assertion. Now don't get me wrong, I agree you should always ERR on the side of interpreting the grey areas as IOIs and be assertive and aggressive, but your statement basically implies to hell with calibration, and that is just wrong. I guess what I'm really trying to say is.. I'm not out their trying to get with women, I'm just putting myself into positions for women to try and get with me. Your approach is 100% correct when you are the pursuer, but when you aren't I believe mines is correct. Are hot women calibrating with your every move? Or are you watching them trying to calibrate to them? Women calibrate for me my friend. Not the other way around. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Quote: P.S. nothing is absolute - so the moment you said "always" your statement lost some credibility.
Semantics. If I say, I hate rap music, clearly I mean, "With high probability, if I listen to a rap song, I will hate it" That is just annoying to write... Obviously I don't mean 100% of the time.
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| Author: | fishnwomen [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
IOIs and IODs are important to recognize, but it should be on a subconscious level. I usually end up comparing the game to sports, so here is another one. If I am guarding a point guard in basketball, I may be able to sense his ability to drive to the hoop with his left hand. I don't consciously analyze it though, it's more of an intuition based off of prior experience. Similarly with pick up, you get an intuition as to whether they are interested in you or not. |
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| Author: | Playboi_ [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Quote: P.S. nothing is absolute - so the moment you said "always" your statement lost some credibility.
Who do you think you are?
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IOI's and Numbers |
Quote: IOIs and IODs are important to recognize, but it should be on a subconscious level. I usually end up comparing the game to sports, so here is another one. If I am guarding a point guard in basketball, I may be able to sense his ability to drive to the hoop with his left hand. I don't consciously analyze it though, it's more of an intuition based off of prior experience. Similarly with pick up, you get an intuition as to whether they are interested in you or not.
Still in this context you are trying to " Defeat " your opponent. I don't mean this is an chauvinist way but women are already "defeated". No extra thinking needs to go into this process for me. I am a man. She is a woman. The feminization of our culture has forced us to relinquish a lot of our power over to women, but when you know who you are this becomes of no issue. Women aren't your opponents. They aren't to be studied. Just know who they are, and know who you are and this will all become a lot easier. They'll feel it. |
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