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| Author: | M2 [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mid-Game issue on cold approaches |
I would have posted this in the SP thread, but the last time I did, I nearly got banned and I need some feedback. I am running into a problem. I have virtually no approach anxiety. I know, it's weird. I approach, open, get them talking, get IOI and THEN everything inside me grounds to a halt. I just feel anxiety all the sudden and my mind locks and I have nothing to say, at that point I eject. I used to run routines, then phased them out and sort of have a cocky funny/natural thing going on. I even had them open and approach me and have had the same thing happen. It's everything in me just goes blank and got no clue what to say all the sudden. I'm no stranger to women. I have quite a few day twos, mostly from online, which go really well. Even f-closed the other night, but I think not being able to close on a cold approach is holding me back. Any thoughts? Any of you seen this? Push through it? Hints at pushing through it? I think if I can nail this down, I'd be unstoppable. Opening isn't a problem. Closing isn't a problem. |
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| Author: | KimPa [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid-Game issue on cold approaches |
Well, if you run out of things to say, why don't you pause for a second and let her try to keep the conversation going? The conversation will get awkward only if you are trying not to make it.. Pausing gives tension and makes her work to get your attention again if she is initially interested. Anyways, she will even get more hooked if she feels that she needs to work to get you, rather than you just showing her all your tricks and material you know. Another strategy is to talk about things that are coming to your mind! Talk about whatever you like and see if she is being receptive and is enjoying it. If not, change topics until you she can relate to what your talking. |
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| Author: | M2 [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid-Game issue on cold approaches |
Quote: Well, if you run out of things to say, why don't you pause for a second and let her try to keep the conversation going? The conversation will get awkward only if you are trying not to make it.. Pausing gives tension and makes her work to get your attention again if she is initially interested. Anyways, she will even get more hooked if she feels that she needs to work to get you, rather than you just showing her all your tricks and material you know.
Good shit, KimPa. Your post JUST reminded me of a few things I heard the other day. Another strategy is to talk about things that are coming to your mind! Talk about whatever you like and see if she is being receptive and is enjoying it. If not, change topics until you she can relate to what your talking. I don't like RSD for a variety of reasons, but alot of their gurus and TD in particular talk about being in the moment when in set. I am a planner and strategist, so maybe that's part of the issue. Just turn it off. There was something I heard the other day that talked about qualifying them, immediately. Pausing would be great too. I did this just the other day just to test it out and she picked it up. Talking about whatever the hell I feel like is pretty solid too. Excellent frame control. |
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| Author: | M2 [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid-Game issue on cold approaches |
Just remembered something else. A natural was telling me indifference is the best thing ever. Maybe I start to notice they're into me and that's what gets me freaked out. I don't want to screw it up or something. Maybe maintain my normal freedom from outcome? |
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| Author: | KimPa [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid-Game issue on cold approaches |
Being indifferent confuses the fuck out of girls and most of the time makes them start to doubt themselves and their level of attractiveness.. I totally suggest to do that for too many reasons. Take it all the way until you are in bed with her. After that, cut it off and start to show some emotions while having sex with them. Of topic, but if you want to have great sex with women, emotions should be involved along dominance, variety and immersion. But we'll talk about that another time. Many newbies get confused with pickup because they have a " to do list" that they try to follow when they are sarging. Most of the time they end up forgetting what they should have done and what they should have said at that moment. To keep it simple, be in your state of mind at that moment, say and do whatever you feel is appropriate at that exact moment. |
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