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Author:  Pasan [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with her?
Hey people,
I posted a thread not long ago for tips on getting with a specific girl, however, she shows interest in a couple of different guys at the minute, one lives abroad but may visit soon and the other I'm not sure if he'll visit soon, but they've been getting awfully close recently...
In hopes that nothing big happens before I get to see her, I was hoping to somehow use the Straw Man Technique was I was reading up on in another thread (worth the read). However, that technique was more aimed at the girl's boyfriend to shoot them down whilst it seems like you're actually trying to make them sound great, then it kind of puts them out of the picture.
I'm wondering if I would somehow be able to put that into practice with guys who she's not with but shows interest in, I know quite a bit about one of them but I think he's putting on an act around her to get with her because she said he changed so much and I spoke to him and it really doesn't seem like he has from like a year or more ago...
And the other guy, I don't know who he is at all, but he lives abroad and maybe I could put the whole long-distance thing into perspective and use that to my advantage?
Can you guys think of any devious ways to use innocent techniques to shoot them down, so I seem like the same guy and not a shit-stirrer, and the opinion on them changes, therefore making it easier for me to make a move?

I feel evil, but cheers in advance for any answers!
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
Find an HB friend to game the other guy for you to keep him occupied. Make she is at least as hot as the girl you are gaming. Bonus points if your HB friend has a boyfriend and doesn't lay the guy.
Author:  Pasan [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
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Find an HB friend to game the other guy for you to keep him occupied. Make she is at least as hot as the girl you are gaming. Bonus points if your HB friend has a boyfriend and doesn't lay the guy.
Hmm... I don't have any HB friends that would do that for me despite him being a good looking guy... I've got some funny stories that would be humiliating to him, but not sure how I could put those across, could just tell her the story when I can find an appropriate time to say it and not make it seem like I'm being a dick, such as if I tell it as though she already knows.
Author:  Pasan [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
Also, knowing this guy, he'd find a way to balance both girls, haha
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
You're better off not even acknowledging these guys exist. The more you acknowledge them in front of her, the more she knows you see them as a threat, which gives them more power and makes them more attractive. Be true alpha, you are the fucking man, there's nobody better than you. Guy comes into your set, don't even acknowledge him, position yourself between him and your girl and turn your back slightly to him to cut him out so that he has to look desperate for attention over your shoulder. If he greets you directly, be friendly, but eyeball the girl while he is talking and roll your eyes at the douchey things he is saying. Do not look at him while he is talking.
Author:  d0minantsp3cies [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
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You're better off not even acknowledging these guys exist. The more you acknowledge them in front of her, the more she knows you see them as a threat, which gives them more power and makes them more attractive. Be true alpha, you are the fucking man, there's nobody better than you. Guy comes into your set, don't even acknowledge him, position yourself between him and your girl and turn your back slightly to him to cut him out so that he has to look desperate for attention over your shoulder. If he greets you directly, be friendly, but eyeball the girl while he is talking and roll your eyes at the douchey things he is saying. Do not look at him while he is talking.
3 bilion woman and you gotta try to destroy on girls bf ? Seems kinds desperate
Youur jaw would be broken if someone tried these moves while I'm around , its pure disrespect
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
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3 bilion woman and you gotta try to destroy on girls bf ? Seems kinds desperate
Youur jaw would be broken if someone tried these moves while I'm around , its pure disrespect
Not before I broke yours first lol. Come at me bro. I always avoid violence and I don't start fights, but if a dude throws a punch at me first, I have no problem putting him in his place with knees to his rib cage and a left hook to his chin.

Dude asked for advice. You didn't offer a better solution, you just criticised mine.
Author:  Pasan [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
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You're better off not even acknowledging these guys exist. The more you acknowledge them in front of her, the more she knows you see them as a threat, which gives them more power and makes them more attractive. Be true alpha, you are the fucking man, there's nobody better than you. Guy comes into your set, don't even acknowledge him, position yourself between him and your girl and turn your back slightly to him to cut him out so that he has to look desperate for attention over your shoulder. If he greets you directly, be friendly, but eyeball the girl while he is talking and roll your eyes at the douchey things he is saying. Do not look at him while he is talking.
I like the approach of just steering attention away from them, I think combining that with the straw man thing could be effective... I think if I obviously change the topic when she mentions one of them, it'll seem even more like I see them as a threat, so maybe just combine the two methods.
I won't see either of those guys at the same time I see her so I don't have to worry about anything close-quarters, the fact that it'll just be us two could make it a lot easier to attempt.
Author:  Pasan [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
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You're better off not even acknowledging these guys exist. The more you acknowledge them in front of her, the more she knows you see them as a threat, which gives them more power and makes them more attractive. Be true alpha, you are the fucking man, there's nobody better than you. Guy comes into your set, don't even acknowledge him, position yourself between him and your girl and turn your back slightly to him to cut him out so that he has to look desperate for attention over your shoulder. If he greets you directly, be friendly, but eyeball the girl while he is talking and roll your eyes at the douchey things he is saying. Do not look at him while he is talking.
3 bilion woman and you gotta try to destroy on girls bf ? Seems kinds desperate
Youur jaw would be broken if someone tried these moves while I'm around , its pure disrespect
If you mean me asking for advice on this matter, I've known the girl for years, and if she's happy enough getting close to two guys, I'm sure being a third one wouldn't be a dick-ish thing to do... I'd see where you were coming from 100% if she had a boyfriend, I'd steer clear, but currently, that isn't the case :P
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
Alternatively, every time she mentions one of those guys, find a comparison between that situation and another girl you are seeing (see other girls if you aren't already doing so). This should create an emotional spike if she likes you and she will get the point that she needs STFU about that guy.
Author:  Pasan [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using the Straw Man Technique on someone who isn't with
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Alternatively, every time she mentions one of those guys, find a comparison between that situation and another girl you are seeing (see other girls if you aren't already doing so). This should create an emotional spike if she likes you and she will get the point that she needs STFU about that guy.
Awesome advice, thank you!
Since I'm pretty much new here, I've been meaning to learn a lot, I'm off into town tomorrow and I'm going to give the 'newbie challenge' a shot just to get confidence up when approaching ladies for example...
Then I'm hoping before I go and visit, I can at least get a couple of dates or something and then that'll give me something to stand on. I do get the feeling though that if I go on dates with some girls, she'll be supportive of it, which isn't what I'm going for, haha...
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