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Make out with her while in your underwear and when you've got a hard-on, place her hand on your dick.

If she resists, get your dick out fully and start jacking it. Indicate she needs to take over. Women are biologically hard-wired to get turned on by this, regardless of religious or social programming.

Basically, stop trying to please her sexually. Make her pleasure you.

How's adhering to the conditions of that restraining order working out for you?

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How's adhering to the conditions of that restraining order working out for you?

There's a difference between token resistance and a girl screaming "NO!". I get it, you are insinuating that I am rapey lol.

Being more sleazy than usual with extremely frigid girls is sometimes necessary. Never had any complaints once my dick is inside. I prefer to see it is as "unleashing a girl's wilder side", I never force, I encourage.

Dude did you never read 60yoc?

Hmmm idk about that one man. She has definantly felt me turned on before but I haven't put her hand there. I don't think that's gonna fly man. As for jerking myself off next to her idk if that would work sounds a little creepy to me. Especially if she didn't want to touch it in the first place.
Maybe I can get her to touch it when she freaks out tell her she has me twisted up and I need to take a shower and I could leave the door cracked as if I'm welcoming her.

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Dude did you never read 60yoc?

Yeap. Backwards and forwards, regretably. The whole "Risk Creepy" mantra is being taken WAY too literally. It may work with skanks, but definitely not on a woman with any sense of self worth.

Author:	bmw2312 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:51 pm ]
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So I am dating this girl and she has never fooled around and doesn't want to till marriage. I am her first real boyfriend and I got her to tell her she loved me which was a first for her. I have butt grabbing privileges and I'm allowed to stick my hand down the front of her pants but can't touch anything. Any ideas how I can escalate her into allowing me to cool around with her? She likes push pull routines if anyone has any funny ones

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:27 pm ]
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Make out with her while in your underwear and when you've got a hard-on, place her hand on your dick. If she resists, get your dick out fully and start jacking it. Indicate she needs to take over. Women are biologically hard-wired to get turned on by this, regardless of religious or social programming. Basically, stop trying to please her sexually. Make her pleasure you.

Author:	n2thevoid [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:29 pm ]
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Quote: Make out with her while in your underwear and when you've got a hard-on, place her hand on your dick. If she resists, get your dick out fully and start jacking it. Indicate she needs to take over. Women are biologically hard-wired to get turned on by this, regardless of religious or social programming. Basically, stop trying to please her sexually. Make her pleasure you. How's adhering to the conditions of that restraining order working out for you?

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:46 pm ]
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Quote: How's adhering to the conditions of that restraining order working out for you? There's a difference between token resistance and a girl screaming "NO!". I get it, you are insinuating that I am rapey lol. Being more sleazy than usual with extremely frigid girls is sometimes necessary. Never had any complaints once my dick is inside. I prefer to see it is as "unleashing a girl's wilder side", I never force, I encourage.

Author:	n2thevoid [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:47 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: How's adhering to the conditions of that restraining order working out for you? There's a difference between token resistance and a girl screaming "NO!". I get it, you are insinuating that I am rapey lol. Being more sleazy than usual with extremely frigid girls is sometimes necessary. Never had any complaints once my dick is inside. I prefer to see it is as "unleashing a girl's wilder side", I never force, I encourage. Rrrrrright...

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Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:04 pm ]
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Dude did you never read 60yoc?

Author:	bmw2312 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:11 pm ]
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Hmmm idk about that one man. She has definantly felt me turned on before but I haven't put her hand there. I don't think that's gonna fly man. As for jerking myself off next to her idk if that would work sounds a little creepy to me. Especially if she didn't want to touch it in the first place. Maybe I can get her to touch it when she freaks out tell her she has me twisted up and I need to take a shower and I could leave the door cracked as if I'm welcoming her.

Author:	n2thevoid [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:13 pm ]
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Quote: Dude did you never read 60yoc? Yeap. Backwards and forwards, regretably. The whole "Risk Creepy" mantra is being taken WAY too literally. It may work with skanks, but definitely not on a woman with any sense of self worth.

Author:	n2thevoid [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:14 pm ]
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Quote: Hmmm idk about that one man. She has definantly felt me turned on before but I haven't put her hand there. I don't think that's gonna fly man. As for jerking myself off next to her idk if that would work sounds a little creepy to me. Especially if she didn't want to touch it in the first place. Maybe I can get her to touch it when she freaks out tell her she has me twisted up and I need to take a shower and I could leave the door cracked as if I'm welcoming her. Save yourself the embarrasement by NOT taking this guy's advice.

Author:	bmw2312 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:18 pm ]
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Ya your right man I think I'm gonna stick with the margaritas and massages see if I can arouse her that way. If she responds to that then maaaaaaaybe l try sexual preditors advice

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:27 pm ]
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LOL! My new nickname: Hunter/Predator! I'm just doing what's worked for me with the more frigid girls of all different backgrounds. Never slept with a skank. Usually a girl voluntarily goes down on me once she realises it's on, but others need more encouragement and praise when they're doing it right. It should be a rewarding experience for her, knowing she has brought you a high level of sexual pleasure.

Author:	SexAddict911 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:00 pm ]
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Don't be so hard on hunter, he seems much more comfortable asserting his sexuality which is a good thing. When in doubt whipping it out can pay off, depending on the situation and target at hand. Besides most women by that stage are already into the guy so it's very hard to look like a creep since you're just being a typical horny guy. However, since that is not the route you wish to take, I would suggest the act of association. Simply begin to associate kissing and cuddling to sexual intimacy. Since it's your girlfriend and not some random target, you have time on your side. Use this time to develop the association. Whenever you are hanging out and becoming intimate kissing, touching, cuddling.... stop as soon as you feel her getting a bit excited. she'll ask what's wrong. You reply " I cant do this, you are turning me on way too much. I can't handle it any more, i get way too aroused then my brain goes to mush. I can't think straight sometimes for days. You can also use the blue balls argument. If you are open with her, tell her you'll often go home and relieve yourself,( thinking of her doing it) just to get your head back on straight.( it is key to keep the topic live, you're need to release) Do this often, if she likes kissing and cuddling as much as most women do, she'll begin to jones for it herself and may be willing to go deeper down the rabbit hole. Also don't be afraid to remind her that you respect her wish to wait for marriage, but there is many things she can still do and keep her virtue. It's human nature for a man that is aroused to ultimately seek release, you need to let her know how powerful it is by stopping the kissing and petting every time until she realizes if she wants it she's gonna have to play it out to release. Don't be afraid to bring it up in conversation. Human sexuality is as normal as breathing, what's not normal is a young horny man NOT showing his sexuality and sexual desire. That's kind of "creepy".

Author:	bmw2312 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:31 pm ]
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Thank you sex addict that's the exact advice I needed. Just as an update she admitted she told me 10 mins ago that she is tempted to have sex with me and by telling her she can trust me and that exploring this slowly together could only end in us falling even farther in love with each other has opened up the possibility of exploring new things. Talking it out helped alot

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:51 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Dude did you never read 60yoc? Yeap. Backwards and forwards, regretably. The whole "Risk Creepy" mantra is being taken WAY too literally. It may work with skanks, but definitely not on a woman with any sense of self worth. Whoa turbo, I think that you may have a problem with escalation. May I ask what your issue is with it? I've done what hunter is saying many a times and it worked but never with women as green as being referred to here, normally those girls aren't quite comfortable with their sexuality so I'd also advise against it in this case. A big key to doing well with women is to react accordingly, to escalate properly. There is something most guys don't realize all mentally healthy women want sex. ALL OF THEM and a woman isn't a "skank" for loving sex, if she doesn't love sex she is lying or not healthy mentally. Don't refer to a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality as "skank", that is an unhealthy outlook on women. Plus it is just a horrible ideal to continue to spread around the community, women who love sex are simply humans in touch with their true feminine side, their sexuality. Note: I will say this much with young girls things are a bit different. Their inexperience makes them go one way or the other. When it comes to risk creepy it was very very literal, mostly because guys aren't bold enough to escalate and consider things like what he is saying as creepy. It's not creepy to escalate, it isn't creepy to grab her ass, it isn't creepy to want to fuck her, it isn't creepy to grab her chest, yes you do need self control and there is a time for each of those but it is natural to do all of these things. You think women are this pure innocent creature that don't love sex? You think it makes them feel horrible? You think they don't want sex? You think they just do it for guys just because? Sex is natural, euphoric, fun. You never need to convince women to want sex, they already want it, in fact biologically they need it, but you do need them to want to have sex with you. As far as getting to sex with her I agree with SexAddict911's post. The key is to have her want sex with you, build sexual tension. Remember women love being desired, they love when a guy can't keep his hands off of her. This doesn't mean needy, this means you are congruent with your escalation. This means you truly do want her, you truly are struggling to not capitalize on your sexuality. This is what sexaddict is referring to, it is arousing to her to be desired. You need to learn to make the sexual tension unbearable, making her truly jones for it as sex addict was saying. I would also look to capitalize on curiosity which is very powerful.... create curiosity for sex along with being aroused and your there. Peace and Love, Vic

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Author:	bmw2312 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:04 pm ]
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I agree Vic in different cases his suggestion would be perfectly fine but in the case of this girl it would be a big no. We have just broken the barrier of her saying she MIGHT be okay with fooling around. I've done a very good job letting her know that she can trust me and she can say not yet to things. Anything else I can add into this convo I'm almost there.