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Author:  Jason. [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  social circle

yo i've posted about this before, theres one guy in my college social circle that fucking tries to lower my value all the time. he's not the social lider, he doesnt even have high value, he actually is a virgin and cant get anything above a 5, but somehow he just keeps trying to lower my value.

example:

im telling another friend about this girl that i was seeing, and this guy was listening as well. he kept saying things like i think she did that to get rid of you

i need to get this fucker out of my social circle somehow, but he kisses everyone else's asses, he messes with me to try to get my attention cuz he knows i dont like him. it has gotten to the point to witch im gonna end up fucking him up.

a couple of good things though: he was in the same classes i am, now he changed his mayor and i dont have to see him every day.

any experience on this? how do you cut a guy like this off?

Author:  n2thevoid [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

By not reacting you've already won.

Author:  smushed [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

Male dominance battles can get pretty challenging. Usually guys with low self esteems aren't going to be easily dissuaded. I see a couple different options. Either direct physical threat, this works if you are clearly bigger than he is. Do not do this when anyone else is around.

You can also subtly turn everyone in your social circle against him. You have to carefully change everyone's impression of him. See what things they dislike about him and exaggerate it. When people confide his faults then get him to do those behaviors when everyone is around and then call him out on it.

Probably the best approach is to befriend the guy. Just being charming and interested in him shows you are dominant. Make him feel welcome and praise him in front of everyone else. Pick him up and help him feel better about himself and make sure others see you doing it.

I'm just throwing this out there, but your post is very beta. Being a strong man means wanting to help other men become strong. See him for what he is (and probably a bit what you are) insecure. Nothing wrong with that.

Author:  RaulDuke [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

Quote:
Male dominance battles can get pretty challenging. Usually guys with low self esteems aren't going to be easily dissuaded. I see a couple different options. Either direct physical threat, this works if you are clearly bigger than he is. Do not do this when anyone else is around.

You can also subtly turn everyone in your social circle against him. You have to carefully change everyone's impression of him. See what things they dislike about him and exaggerate it. When people confide his faults then get him to do those behaviors when everyone is around and then call him out on it.

Probably the best approach is to befriend the guy. Just being charming and interested in him shows you are dominant. Make him feel welcome and praise him in front of everyone else. Pick him up and help him feel better about himself and make sure others see you doing it.

I'm just throwing this out there, but your post is very beta. Being a strong man means wanting to help other men become strong. See him for what he is (and probably a bit what you are) insecure. Nothing wrong with that.
That's good advice smushed. My advice would be that he is down the social ladder trying to get up, unconsciously or consciously, so I would just ignore him and if he does it infront of people I would ignore him and start a different thread with someone else (preferably a girl) or look at her or him and smile as if sharing a joke.

I have had similar problems with one or two guys in work. They try bringing you down infront of other people especially the ladies. The work place is and can be a nasty battle ground. I've found that not reacting to it (although hard to do as you just wanna knock them out) usually work or agreeing with them and turning it in to a joke and building them up. They usually crumble. Sometimes they can get really physical. ie they are always touching and sometimes slap you on the back of the head or the face infront of girls which is very frustrating. Or push and grab you in a jokey way but there is undertones of aggression and insecurity.

My question would be how would handle that type of behaviour? I go red...not from embarrassment..but from anger or fear that I'll lose control and smash them as I can handle myself well. I'm not the type to beat my chest like the typical amog but when I need to protect myself I can. These guys are tall. It's ever since I have risen up in the social hierarchy of the work group. I organise drinks out and have my own thing going on outside the group and they can see that I go out with other beautiful ladies.

I'm more popular but I'm certainly not the alpha male of the group. The guy who is the amog uses his physical presence and he is also intelligent. I have befriended him but I can tell he is insecure about me as he attacks. So there are some positives to take from it I suppose when the alpha males attack (Physically or verbally) they are seeing you as a threat so you must be doing something right. Maybe. I think the higher you move up the social ladder the more underhanded put downs are. However I'm still learning with this social group but it is so fascinating to see how things work in the social matrix

Author:  smushed [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

Strange. I have a feeling that your insecurity gets you into confrontational situations. I don't know why, but something about it tells me that maybe you are bringing things on yourself.

As for tall guys, they are used to being dominant, so head on confrontations would probably not work out well. I don't think there is an easy answer. Remember the most powerful way to seduce women is first by seducing the men around them. So maybe try reading Win Friends and Influence People and keep seeing how you can control the conversations around you.

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

Every time he tries to AMOG you, give him a pat on the back. When he's seated or you're seated, stand up every time you talk to him. Make sure the girls see these body language signals from you.

Oh. Just in case he escalates his aggression physically, learn some yawara stick techniques. 10,000 repetitions cumulative per technique at full force practice will make your movements reflexive and fast.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlw9Mo4g5Ak[/youtube]

Rule #1. Do not hit his eardrums.

Rule #2. Do not hit his throat.

Rule #3. Do not hit his groin.

Legit targets: biceps, forearms, wrist, clavicle and muscles generally. Your defensive goals are to disable his punches and kicks.

Simply knowing with confidence that you can defend yourself from a physically superior force will trigger physiological changes in your body that will minimize bullying from other males. You might not even need to use the yawara stick at all.

:twisted:

Author:  Jason. [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

when it comes to fisical stuff check this out this is a good example of alfa male confrontation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri13wHUvvbs
its tom cruice confronting a dude that splashes him.

you could do something pretty similar when she smacks you in the head for example. he'll try to say youre over reacting, hold your frame and dont freak out would be the best tips i can give you.

Author:  Mr.Jowee [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: social circle

Quote:
Rule #1.
Rule #2.
Rule #3.
Bull shit. :!:

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