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| Author: | hugge [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What defines a master PUA? |
The closest thing I have come to a definition is this: http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions ... tist-mpua/ And as the only comment there reads, it is impossible to reach 100% success rate. Try to game a lesbian, and the case is closed. So... What does Mystery's "five for five" actually mean? As I have experienced myself while gaming HB10's - even if they can be attracted to me, they can be extremely boring! Is it a lack of skill that I can't always "draw state from within" (quoting Owen/Tyler from RSD), have fun from nothing, and find the situation interesting enough to continue the interaction? I usually find myself rejecting the HB10, or breaking rapport unconsciously (since I don't like her as a person) which in turn makes her loose interest in me. Or is this just me having high standards? I consider myself "normal" with healthy expectations on myself, and people who can be positive and have fun 24/7 abnormal freaks (Owen and Julien from RSD seem to be in this category). My question is maybe not as much what an "mPUA" is, as it is questioning the people who are considered "mPUAs" themselves. Are they truly good at getting whoever they want into bed (having high standards, high skill), or are they just sleeping with anything they get (having low standards)? |
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| Author: | stevejabba [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
I'd quit thinking about it if I were you. It will make you unhappy. It's not relevant. |
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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
find a girl who meets your standards then. There are lots and lots of women. Eventually you will find one that is similar to yourself. |
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| Author: | Pickwick [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
Defining a master PUA is very irrelevant to anything. I can glide on good looks, charisma, knowledge on how female minds work, and what not to do and pull almost any girl besides lesbians and those I am not interested in. Do I consider myself a mPUA? No. Do I consider myself a PUA? Neh. I'm just a man. A man with a plan... |
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| Author: | Hunter_Foxe [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
A master PUA is a title given to successful dating coaches by AFCs and beta males. Any actual "mPUA" would never refer to himself as a "master", apart from maybe Ross Jeffries. The fact that you see a difference between you as a man and say, Mystery, shows you still consider yourself less of a man. We are all men, we are all the same. |
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| Author: | Reality Show [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
Master according to whom? Just aim low, find a place where the girls love you and then just live it up. = being your own master. Down compare yourself to others. Learn from them, but realize you are not them. Focus on the positive. |
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| Author: | hugge [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
Quote: Defining a master PUA is very irrelevant to anything.
So you are saying that you can pull almost anyone who you are interested in? That is an interesting claim, and relates to my first question. What kind of girls do you find interesting? Those who show immediate interest in you, the "hard cases" that you "can't get", or both? I can glide on good looks, charisma, knowledge on how female minds work, and what not to do and pull almost any girl besides lesbians and those I am not interested in. Do I consider myself a mPUA? No. ... I have met girls who will loose attraction as soon as I validate them (requires cold approach, these are the easy cases because all I have to do is to hold back on compliments), and girls who will not become even slightly attracted unless I validate them first (requires more direct approach). Total opposites, that is. But how can you tell one from the other during the few hours you have on a club? If I use the wrong approach on the wrong girl, I'm out. A coworker of mine is the second type, a girl I consider an impossible case. I view her as an interesting experiment. It took me several months to figure out how to make her even want to talk to me, while she is like a sticker on other guys. I found that normal conversation, humor and being an alpha male among my other coworkers (I even dominate those who she like) was not enough to get her interested at all. (Well, I have seen some glances from her, but nothing more). But as soon as I said something a little bit too obvious, validating her, I noticed an increase in eye contact with her (she was almost staring at me while I was talking to the group). With this as an example, would you be able to pull such a girl? My normal reaction is to ignore girls like her, even if I am initially attracted by their looks. In this specific case with my coworker, I'm just using her to test different techniques. |
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| Author: | hugge [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
I got my hands on a copy of the book "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene, and it confirms many of my insights. Here are some quotes: "Study your prey thoroughly, and choose only those who will prove susceptible to your charms." My interpretation: You cannot approach just anyone at random. The perfect victim has some quality that inspires strong emotions in you, making your seductive maneuvers seem more natural and dynamic. My interpretation: You are only naturally attracted to those that you can get. "The right victims are those for whom you can fill a void, who see in you something exotic." "If you are too direct early on, you risk stirring up a resistance that will never be lowered." "A perfectly satisfied person cannot be seduced. Tension and disharmony must be instilled in your targets minds." This is a skill worth working on. |
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| Author: | Moe.M [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
I think you will reach mpua status (not that i believe in such an idea) when you have become truly and fully disconnected from the outcome of an interaction/ series of interactions. This in turn stems from confidence. High confidence and faith in yourself = Mpua status in my book. N.b. This is why I dont rate any guru as worthy of mpua status... All of these self-proclaimed gurus are thirsty for external validation. Not manly, not mpua. |
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| Author: | hugge [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What defines a master PUA? |
Looking at the people at RSD, it seems as if their (unspoken) definition is a guy who is promiscuous, obsessed with the game and will sleep with almost anyone, 6 lays per week. At some occasion, Julien posted a clip about "buyers mentality", saying that the girl has to prove her worth. In a newer clip he speaks about "frame battle" and "how to pass shit tests", which is the same thing as saying "how to get impolite bitches that you don't like into bed". What happened to the buyers mentality? What happened the concept of pride? |
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