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Author:  marrybanger [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:00 am ]
Post subject:  Please Help!!
This is the second time. Girl who started off attracted to me. When we hang out, she shows IOI all the time. But after a while we are just friends.....

This time tho, I actually confess to the girl. I dont usually do that, it usually just happens without having to confess. so this is the first time i confess to a girl. I just told her that I have feelings for her. And then immediately, she said we are just friends! Nothing more. I dunno how I get friend zoned.

Question is, since we already got friend zoned. Is there any chance I could just have sex with this girl? since she started off being attracted to me anyways.....
Author:  clickngo [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
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I dunno how I get friend zoned
You answer your own question
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I just told her that I have feelings for her. And then immediately, she said we are just friends! Nothing more.
=(
Author:  marrybanger [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
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I dunno how I get friend zoned
You answer your own question
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I just told her that I have feelings for her. And then immediately, she said we are just friends! Nothing more.
=(
so.... now what?
Author:  Fly_Swatter [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
You seem to be suffering from a serious case of lackingballsus.

Brought on by: fear of escalating, not performing KINO, and inability to judge appropriate times to touch and kiss.

Symptoms include: sudden loss of interest from HBs, being friendzoned, and permanent freeze-outs from HBs.

Remedy: get some fucking balls.

Relevant literature: DiCarlo Escalation Ladder.
Author:  marrybanger [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
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You seem to be suffering from a serious case of lackingballsus.

Brought on by: fear of escalating, not performing KINO, and inability to judge appropriate times to touch and kiss.
God dam you are right as fuck! fear of escalating, not performing KINO, and inability to judge appropriate times to touch and kiss. Please tell me how to get the balls required to eliminate my problem...
Author:  Fly_Swatter [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
the-dicarlo-escalation-ladder-vt16552.html

Proceed through the ladder one rank at a time. If she does not appear put off or does not reject your approach, that is your green light to proceed to the next rank (but not immediately). If she gives a negative reaction, you should either treat it as a shit test, and/or pull back (see push-pull).
Author:  clickngo [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
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the-dicarlo-escalation-ladder-vt16552.html

Proceed through the ladder one rank at a time. If she does not appear put off or does not reject your approach, that is your green light to proceed to the next rank (but not immediately). If she gives a negative reaction, you should either treat it as a shit test, and/or pull back (see push-pull).
I needed that for ref, thanks for link!!
Author:  marrybanger [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
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inability to judge appropriate times to touch and kiss.
I read thru the guide, but it doesn't really tell me how to judge the appropriate times to touch and kiss..... Can you tell me something about that?
Author:  Fly_Swatter [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Help!!
Yes. First, try roughing respecting the time constraints highlighted by DiCarlo. Mystery and Neil Strauss say that 7 hours is generally how long it takes from the moment you meet a girl to the moment you f-close her. However, from personal experience, what is critical is the k-close. You should be able to have that done within a few hours. Once that is done, you're much more likely to avoid the friendzone. The f-close can wait up to 5 dates if need be, but can be done in 1-3 dates.

Now, as far as judging the appropriate times to touch and kiss, truth is you shouldn't be judging -- you should be solely acting based on opportunities you create for yourself. For instance, suppose you're sitting next to her at a bar. You neg her with a playful joke... You then tell her you're joking as you laugh and give her thigh 2-3 quick squeezes. This breaks the touching barrier. Another instance: she tells you a sad story, or she says something like "I broke a nail." You then say "aww you poor thing (either mockingly or not, depending on the situation)" and stroke her thigh several times in pity. After touching her 2-4 times, you basically have permission to leave your hand there.

Next, when you have something secretive or sensual to say, you can wrap your arm around her shoulder and whisper in her ear. "Yes but I bet you'd like for me to do THAT to you." This is guaranteed to send butterflies to her stomach. You can then land a quick peck on her cheek. If you use this strategy again, you can land a few quick pecks on her cheek. This breaks more barriers and will mentally prep her for kissing later on.

The gist is that you need to match your dialogue with your actions. And since you are alpha (at least, trying to believe you are), then you control the dialogue, and you should be able to escalate as you see fit.
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