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| Author: | Wizzay [ Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Girl wont break eyecontact |
A few days ago I was in the club with some friends including a few females.. Now me and this girl have a bit of history but never hooked up, and she is in one of the social circles im hanging out with, but not much. So last time we were at the club I tought to myself im gonna try and create some sexual tension, so I 1 meter away from her and look at her, and she looked at me, I look her in the eyes, with a smill smirk and she keeps looking me in the eyes to.. all the time I was thinking keep looking dont look away, and to my suprise she kept looking to .. for almost 30seconds.. wtf.. I broke down lmao and got closer and told her, damn not even a flinch, she said is it a bad thing.. im like nah, just not many girls can "stare" and not look away lol... What could I have said better? and what do you think of this? should I have held eye -contact longer? or shouldve made a sexual kino move? what does it say about her ?? |
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| Author: | Reality Show [ Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
Don't overthink it. Just always push it. You did the right thing. Keep looking for more girls that dig your style and everything will come together. |
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| Author: | Wizzay [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
So I assume of your posts, her action is a IOD?(Sign of disinterest?) Does it also mean she is a strong women for being able to hold eyecontact for so long, much longer then most females? |
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| Author: | Donston [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
No bro, it is nothing about your style, your looks, or shit mainstream media says of what makes girls attracted to a guy. This is one of the necessary steps to build "Entitlement" and incorporate into your momentum building through out the night. Now to define "Entitlement", it is how normal can you act around hot girls. For example it is easy to act normal around a girl who you really are not attracted to. But, typically for most men ... there is a certain level of caliber (hotness) that they feel intimidated by so they can't act normal around them. So what most guys do around hot girls and when they are attracted to them ... she sense you are weird because you become attached to the outcome, she can sense that you are going into your head trying to find the perfect thing to impress her, your basically just being weird. Again lets "Entitlement" is how gorgeous the girl is and still be able to act normal. So the opposite would be having the "lack of entitlement". When you have a lack of entitlement your brain find millions of ways to try to convey value to the hot babe. It is similar to approach anxiety, where your focus is not on the hot girl you want, but, your focus on things not to approach. Example, "Oh she is with this dude." ... "Oh she is going to the washroom" ... your brain is giving you all these reasons why not to approach. So in the same way as having AA, when you have a "lack of entitlement" and when you speak to a girl and when she is looking into your eyes .. you may find that you have a problem with silences, you may have a hard time listening to what she is saying, you have a hard time vibing, maybe you have a hard time thinking of what to say. It's like when the girl is looking into your eyes, she senses that your are finding ways to convey value. Where everything you are saying is coming out of a place of lack. Where you can't believe that a girl this hot can be into you. So your brain try to find things to say like maybe trips you've been on, or maybe a routine that would neg her in a funny way. Your brain finds millions of things, either if its game, or ways to qualify your self like braggers ... the weird thing is you can feel your brain actually doing this to you. So what I want to share with you on how I start my momentum building process. It will probably change your life ^_^ ... So first I focus on "Freedom of Outcome". It will be weird at first but just focus on "Freedom of Outcome". So you go up to the girl calm as fuck. When you talk to her, take long pause in between. Be like ... "Hey" (pause for 3 seconds) ... "How's your night?" (pause for 5 seconds) ... "Who are you?" .... etc ... basically fall in the interview mode if you wish. The key to developing freedom of outcome and building that attraction while talking to the girl is your eye contact. Just focus on her eyes ... don't go into your head ... don't think. Just focus on her eyes and that is it. You will find the girl literally look into your eyes and see if you are trying to go in your head. She is trying to scope if you lack entitlement. If you have any chinks in your chains .... At first you'll be able to do it for 30 seconds or so ... then you may start losing your focus of the eyes and go into your head trying to find ways to convey value. So generally you don't make any effort to convey value and it's all maintaining that eye contact. You can even approach with out saying anything and just walk up and maintain eye contact! What's going to happen next is fucking intense! So when you are not trying to pick up ... and just maintaining eye contact, the girl is going to start saying, "You're amazing!", "Your hot!", "Your beautiful", "Your gorgeous", "Your the best one tonight", "You are the only guy here that is not a creep" ... The reason is because when she is staring in your eyes, she sees high entitlement, and you are the first guy who is not trying to convey any value. Again don't fucking convey value, don't try! Don't even try to not convey value ... lol. If you can do this to a couple of your approaches it will get stronger and stronger. What will happen is something fucked up will happen. You will see girls into you. Hot girls will think you are this special dude. Then your brain will not accept this ... this will probably short circuit your brain. You may not even be able to sleep at night because your brain will freak out because all your life your brain has been trying to find ways to convey value are worthless when it comes to seducing women and your sex life. Specially if you can teach this to some ugly funny looking dude and you see him do this to a girl. Then you see a girl saying "Your gorgeous!" .... You'll be like, "WTF? Him? Gorgeous?" ..... so fucking funny. But try it out ... it is so fucked ... |
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| Author: | Tr@veler [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
So you had intense eye contact with this girl and you say "not even a flinch" and she says "is that a bad thing" and you didn't make a move? You created sexual tension, she held it and then didnt back away when you came up to her and you didn't make a move? Why? You didn't even need many words here. You could've probably walked up to her and just taken her away and kissed her then and there. This was a definite IOI. Sexual tension - always act on it at some point - the sooner the better usually. |
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| Author: | Donny G [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
Perfect time to use the ballsy "If you don't stop staring at me I am going to kiss you" |
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| Author: | Wizzay [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
Donston, thank you for taking the time for such a post! I read it just now, and I must honestly I have to reread it to understand it, but if I am correct, it is mostly aimed at opening/and creating sexual tension right? But is it also something to try when someone is already in your social circle, and already has seen your value? I will keep in mind not to do anything that is trying to show value and just focus on eye contact. @Traveler. Yes you got that right.. you see ive been reading 60 years of challenge guide about relentless fast sexual escalation and tought to try it out, but she was my first subject and I tought of her to break eyecontact, and it suprised me very much when she didn't, that's why i could say didn't think of making a move(also in that situation it wouldnt have been appropiate to kiss her for other reasons). Lesson learnt. I tought its a bad thing, but it seems its a good thing. @Donny G. Very good one, I will use that the next time! |
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| Author: | Donston [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Girl wont break eyecontact |
Quote: Donston, thank you for taking the time for such a post! I read it just now, and I must honestly I have to reread it to understand it, but if I am correct, it is mostly aimed at opening/and creating sexual tension right? But is it also something to try when someone is already in your social circle, and already has seen your value?
Ya you can try it as long as you want ... from open .. to mid game ... in bed .... to whoever you like. Try not to do it to guys ... guys will think you are starting a fight with them ... If a girl tries a congruence test (shit test) ... you can just answer back with your eye contact that she just fucked up with you ... Less is more ^_^! The purpose of just solely focusing on eye contact is so you can be present in the moment. When you are present in the moment you get in the flow and you start saying the funniest, whitties stuff that you've ever said ... you'll start applying game you've read ... You'll start expressing your intent more freely and honestly (Freedom of outcome + showing intention) ... have no hesitation ... you'd be a high value male ^_^! But what is awesome is that she will like you for who you are.I will keep in mind not to do anything that is trying to show value and just focus on eye contact. @Traveler. Yes you got that right.. you see ive been reading 60 years of challenge guide about relentless fast sexual escalation and tought to try it out, but she was my first subject and I tought of her to break eyecontact, and it suprised me very much when she didn't, that's why i could say didn't think of making a move(also in that situation it wouldnt have been appropiate to kiss her for other reasons). Lesson learnt. I tought its a bad thing, but it seems its a good thing. @Donny G. Very good one, I will use that the next time! Deep shit eh? |
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