PUA Forum :: The 3 layers

Terrible.

What you're saying is a reflection of common social conditioning, and it's the type of mentality that breeds AFCs.

Thanks to pickup, we know what works better. It should be more like:
1. Strangers to sexual partners
2. Sexual partners to friends and/or romantic partners

He didn't take you out of context, he is exactly right. I usually go from strangers to sexual partners and I very very rarely ever would be a "friend" before sex. This model you posted looks like it comes out of Vogue magazine, knock it off.

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ignorance.

????

Not sure how you benefit from coming on the board saying nonsense and then get all upset when people call you out so others dont take what youre saying as fact.

If Im in your scenario I want to be "friends" inside of two minutes and "romantic partners" (whatever the fuck that is) inside of five minutes and lovers by the end of the first week. If shes not hot for me by then youre in the friendzone. Why risk being placed in the F-zone when you can just let her know that youre interested in her sexually?

So you're just like "hi I'm tom, lets fuck" and you fuck..

no. you build a mutual connection with her and or her friends, then you add some insight and further connection with kino that it's almost romantic between you too, then you kino further and fuck them. That's s how it works.

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So you're just like "hi I'm tom, lets fuck" and you fuck..

No, my name is not Tom

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You are talking about building what is called rapport in order to form attraction, which is exactly the wrong order of things. And I dont usually Kino very much at all before I get them to my house to close.

Now, as for why no one has offered you more constructive feedback about your post? Most of the senior posters dont like arguing with new guys posting questions as statements of fact when they are off base. However thanks for telling us "how it works"

Author:	Newb4lyfe [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:32 am ]
Post subject:	The 3 layers
This is something based off, well "breaking the ice". Mainly the goal is to get from not knowing the person to having sexual relations with the person. Layers: 1. Strangers to friends 2. Friends to Romantic partners 3. Romantic partners to sexual partners (being a romantic partner doesn't necessarily mean in a relationship) You'll notice that you may be more willing to have sex with a girl if she seems more sexual, It could basically be the same for men, but instead of seeming like whores, use conversation that could be based on sexuality. See it's kind of like NLP, she pairs the conversations she has with you to you, in the way she looks at you. Yeah just throwing in my two cents for the day. Let me know what you guys think, This just popped up to me while I was half asleep so I felt like I should just throw it up here. Always be confident with what you say, and stand by it though. You can say some horrible things but as long as you stand by it you look stronger as a person and be a true alpha-male. (i recommend still checking what you say though.)

Author:	Chief [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Terrible. What you're saying is a reflection of common social conditioning, and it's the type of mentality that breeds AFCs. Thanks to pickup, we know what works better. It should be more like: 1. Strangers to sexual partners 2. Sexual partners to friends and/or romantic partners

Author:	kasabi [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Not really sure if there needs to be any sort of order. As long as you befriend girls with sex always being a possibility, all it takes is logistics. Chief, are you still in Korea? I'm launching 2 projects that will involve frequent travel to Korea once again. . .

Author:	Newb4lyfe [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Quote: Terrible. What you're saying is a reflection of common social conditioning, and it's the type of mentality that breeds AFCs. Thanks to pickup, we know what works better. It should be more like: 1. Strangers to sexual partners 2. Sexual partners to friends and/or romantic partners I think you took what i said out of context. Generally you can break all layers at once, but it's just typically "thicker ice". I mean i understand it's easier to date someone you've already had sexual encounters with, and that can be the goal. But I'm talking about advancing with people who are already you're friends also, and possibly already in your social group. If you just go around with the idea to just have sex with the people in that area, you're going to lose some of your closer friends, and be less trusted, especially by men. If you still think that is "Terrible" I won't even bother posting my 2 cents on a community of people who do read posts in "general questions" I mean ridiculous man

Author:	detox75 [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
He didn't take you out of context, he is exactly right. I usually go from strangers to sexual partners and I very very rarely ever would be a "friend" before sex. This model you posted looks like it comes out of Vogue magazine, knock it off.

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Author:	Newb4lyfe [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Quote: He didn't take you out of context, he is exactly right. I usually go from strangers to sexual partners and I very very rarely ever would be a "friend" before sex. This model you posted looks like it comes out of Vogue magazine, knock it off. So you're just like "hi I'm tom, lets fuck" and you fuck.. no. you build a mutual connection with her and or her friends, then you add some insight and further connection with kino that it's almost romantic between you too, then you kino further and fuck them. That's s how it works. Stranger to fuck buddy is called a prostitute, or a whore. That's not what I'm talking about. If you put it in this insight you're going to understand where I'm coming from. Otherwise you're just taking the words separately and not as a whole of this idea which i consider ignorance.

Author:	MrBreeze [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Quote: ignorance. ???? Not sure how you benefit from coming on the board saying nonsense and then get all upset when people call you out so others dont take what youre saying as fact. If Im in your scenario I want to be "friends" inside of two minutes and "romantic partners" (whatever the fuck that is) inside of five minutes and lovers by the end of the first week. If shes not hot for me by then youre in the friendzone. Why risk being placed in the F-zone when you can just let her know that youre interested in her sexually?

Author:	Newb4lyfe [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Quote: Quote: ignorance. ???? Not sure how you benefit from coming on the board saying nonsense and then get all upset when people call you out so others dont take what youre saying as fact. If Im in your scenario I want to be "friends" inside of two minutes and "romantic partners" (whatever the fuck that is) inside of five minutes and lovers by the end of the first week. If shes not hot for me by then youre in the friendzone. Why risk being placed in the F-zone when you can just let her know that youre interested in her sexually? Did you not even fully read it??? i said you could break more than one layer at once. jesus christ. It's just more difficult to break more layers at once "thicker ice". One I'm not saying this is fact. it's just something i thought up that makes some sense. It wasn't the fact they disagreed with me. it was the fact that of the wording they used. "terrible". "knock it off". nothing constructive, even as a moderator, He should understand psychology enough to know just shutting down people like that doesn't help them, it makes them less likely to try. Theres no conditioning to that. I know it's just bullshit i put up. But i know that it has some truth to it, that's why I'm defending it. If you look at the way I frame it you should get it, there ya go

Author:	detox75 [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Quote: So you're just like "hi I'm tom, lets fuck" and you fuck.. No, my name is not Tom Quote: no. you build a mutual connection with her and or her friends, then you add some insight and further connection with kino that it's almost romantic between you too, then you kino further and fuck them. That's s how it works. You are talking about building what is called rapport in order to form attraction, which is exactly the wrong order of things. And I dont usually Kino very much at all before I get them to my house to close. Now, as for why no one has offered you more constructive feedback about your post? Most of the senior posters dont like arguing with new guys posting questions as statements of fact when they are off base. However thanks for telling us "how it works"

Author:	Newb4lyfe [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Quote: Quote: So you're just like "hi I'm tom, lets fuck" and you fuck.. No, my name is not Tom Quote: no. you build a mutual connection with her and or her friends, then you add some insight and further connection with kino that it's almost romantic between you too, then you kino further and fuck them. That's s how it works. You are talking about building what is called rapport in order to form attraction, which is exactly the wrong order of things. And I dont usually Kino very much at all before I get them to my house to close. Now, as for why no one has offered you more constructive feedback about your post? Most of the senior posters dont like arguing with new guys posting questions as statements of fact when they are off base. However thanks for telling us "how it works" "Yeah just throwing in my two cents for the day. Let me know what you guys think, This just popped up to me while I was half asleep so I felt like I should just throw it up here." ^Did you not see that. that phrase alone challenged my reliability. Making the entire post NOT 100% a statement, more as an idea. Obviously you're not as good at PU as you try to make it, because you can't even persuade a "New guy" in a forum to agree with you. Whatever gramps thread closed.

Author:	detox75 [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The 3 layers
Sorry for being an asshole, I tend to have a very little patience. as stated I think you model of how the process works is way off base. You are right that I have presented very little useful information in this post. The good news is that there is a shit-ton of great info on these forums.

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