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Author:  kross [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  HELP!! not clear situation in the office

Hey guys, I do need some advice...

I like a girl in my office, she is asian. I came to work to her same place with 4 more friends, so initially we were treated as a group by the rest. But I kinda started to talk to her about different office issues, so in the end she is talking to me each time she wants to address the group of us.
She has been always nice to me when I asked her for something. The other day we were having lunch, 5 people, and someone asked ¿when do u chinese people get normally married? and she asked, and then a guy asked '¿so, what's your age then?' kind of haha. She did not answer that, but with no reason (i think) she said 'i'm not married, and i'm single'. I mean, that's unnecesary information, and I'm the one in that group of people she always talks to. So I wanna believe that was an IOI...
Yesterday we had a company party, and she was like couple of times coming to my group (reason? just being nice with everybody? looking for me? never know). Then I told her 'hey, come sit down here next to me', and we started talking. The rest left us. We were talking for what I thought had been 15 minutes, but apparently it was like hour and a half.. -.-"
I was always with a smile, did a couple of small kino (like oh, that question was so personal, sorry - then touch her shoulder). Talked abt lot of stuff, like favorite numbers, countries visited, etc. I asked about when she started university and later, so she suddenly said 'hey, you are counting years to know my age!' - 'haha yeah, that's it'.
You know, joking, talking abt her and me. She laughed several times.
But, sometimes she looked to the rest of the people, like 'i may have to go'. So I was enjoying and uncomfortable at the same time.. In the end she had to go, i kissed her in the cheek and that's it.

My friends say 'hey, we are working in this city for 3 months, u have nothing to lose, u should have done something, not just talking'. I feel bad for that, but I did not feel that was the moment! Plus, she is not a girl i met in a bar, she works in my same office..

So I'm really confused, I dunno if she is interested in me or not, I dunno what to do, I dunno if there is something, some feeling between us, and I dunno how to make the next step.

I told her tomorrow I will have lunch with her, but i dont know if he expects to be me and the whole group... what am i going to tell in that case?

damn please give me some advice...

and THANKS for having read all this!

Author:  puaninja [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

Yea, there's no way this was in America. Coworkers here NEVER kiss, not even on the cheek. But it's hard to tell sometimes with women, especially coworkers. Maybe she is just being friendly because she thinks you are a friendly guy. My opinion is that in general, women will be neutral towards you. If they are single, you can game them hard and probably get them. If you don't fully commit to trying, they'll just let themselves slip away and fall into some other guys arms who is willing to put forth the effort.

Btw, I like how you said you talked about "favorite numbers."

"You like 724!?! Me too!"

Author:  KimPa [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

Well, you did touch her few times and that's good.. If there is a way to fuck a girl it is by escalating.. the name came from escalator! So next time, start slowly touching and then add the level of that kino until you feel she is getting uncomfortable(if you are doing it right she won't feel uncomfortable).. then go back to the previous level and keep the escalation going only if you think she is getting uncomfortable.. You should have said that she seems like one of cool kids around and you guys should have drinks after work sometime that week and take her number.. As for the lunch, don't worry about what she thinks.. As long as she meets you, it's all good.. Just assume that she knows only you two are having lunch together.. Your friend is right.. Nothing to lose! Btw, 451 is my favorite number if anyone asks you..

Author:  kross [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

Thank u guys!!

@puaninja, yes, i'm not in america right now. btw, i did that move, i just kissed her.. so i dont know whats she thinking right now damn. i made an excuse, like 'this is typical in spain, to say goodbye with 2 kisses'

@KimPa, i agree i may 'escalate', but it's fckn scary when you don't see positive response.. i mean, i can screw it up and i have yet to see her daily for 2 months!

I already have her number, but i got it for work reasons, so no points for that.

Question is, how to make her be interested in you? and should I do something tomorrow or just wait to the next time (cause this is lunch... not that 'flirty' as a dinner could be..) And abt the topics to talk abt, think that 'magic tricks' and that stuff may work for a one-night or 2 dates issue, but when you are knowing each other during a month... puf, that's different

Author:  KimPa [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

Well, here's a thing i do.. I assume all girls that come to talk to me are interested.. I honestly, don't look for IOIs anymore.. Just be your awesome self! Talk about the interesting things that you experienced in your life! There's def funny stories that happened to you in the past! Talk about those.. Slip in some DHV stories when telling her funny experience or exciting ones.. but don't be arrogant at the same.. Another tip would be having good eye contact.. It's enough to have eye contact 2/3 of the time you are spending with her.. but it's important for her to know you are confident.. Your voice tone should be a bit higher than hers... I can totally relate about the kiss and your justification.. I do that all the time! I kiss all the women I know when greeting or saying goodbye.. Yesterday, I was a lounge for R&B night and I met a girl from Italy.. I was escalating since min one holding her hand and getting closer when i want to talk.. She told she feels under pressure me getting close to her and holding her hands.. I justified that saying that's how brazilian people are!( I'm half brazilian).. and then she got all excited and started telling me how she wants to go there.. At the same time, I continued dancing and getting closer to her.. At one point my face was literally few inches away from here.. Sexual tension was at the peek there.. So she just had to break it and kissed me..

Author:  puaninja [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

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Well, here's a thing i do.. I assume all girls that come to talk to me are interested.. I honestly, don't look for IOIs anymore.. Just be your awesome self! Talk about the interesting things that you experienced in your life! There's def funny stories that happened to you in the past! Talk about those.. Slip in some DHV stories when telling her funny experience or exciting ones.. but don't be arrogant at the same.. Another tip would be having good eye contact.. It's enough to have eye contact 2/3 of the time you are spending with her.. but it's important for her to know you are confident.. Your voice tone should be a bit higher than hers... I can totally relate about the kiss and your justification.. I do that all the time! I kiss all the women I know when greeting or saying goodbye.. Yesterday, I was a lounge for R&B night and I met a girl from Italy.. I was escalating since min one holding her hand and getting closer when i want to talk.. She told she feels under pressure me getting close to her and holding her hands.. I justified that saying that's how brazilian people are!( I'm half brazilian).. and then she got all excited and started telling me how she wants to go there.. At the same time, I continued dancing and getting closer to her.. At one point my face was literally few inches away from here.. Sexual tension was at the peek there.. So she just had to break it and kissed me..
Yea, do shit like that. Confident, aggressive, not giving a fuck.

Only thing is with this girl is that she is asian, a coworker, and probably a business professional of some sort. So you can't just treat her like some club girl you met on the dancefloor. You still want to be confident, but you can't be too sexual or pushy.

I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe say something like "You know, I was walking home last night and I saw this advertisement for (some musical/event/etc) and I remembered how you were telling me how much you loved (musicals/events/etc.) You should come out with me on Friday night and we'll go. It'll be unreal!"

Author:  KimPa [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

Quote:
from here.. Sexual tension was at the peek there.. So she just had to break it and kissed me..
Yea, do shit like that. Confident, aggressive, not giving a fuck.

Only thing is with this girl is that she is asian, a coworker, and probably a business professional of some sort. So you can't just treat her like some club girl you met on the dancefloor. You still want to be confident, but you can't be too sexual or pushy.

I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe say something like "You know, I was walking home last night and I saw this advertisement for (some musical/event/etc) and I remembered how you were telling me how much you loved (musicals/events/etc.) You should come out with me on Friday night and we'll go. It'll be unreal!"[/quote]

Asian that lived for a long time abroad have a different mentality than the ones that moved to a country a couple of years before.. You know what they say "when you are in rome act like a roman".. It's true people change and adapt to other cultures in the long run.. Some traditions stay but they do change a lot.. I never got a real job yet so I wouldn't really know how it works in firms and company businesses, but i know being confident and witty works everywhere.. Puaninja is right though u can't be tooo pushy and sexual.. If you fuck up, she might she report you sexual harassment I'm guessing.. The invite idea is pretty good actually.. It's not direct or indirect.. It just happened that there is this event and you are inviting.. If she has this idea of not fucking coworkers then she can make herself believe " Well, I'm only going with him to this event.. It's not like we are going on a date or something.. " She will believe what she wants to believe..

Author:  KimPa [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP!! not clear situation in the office

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Yea, do shit like that. Confident, aggressive, not giving a fuck.

Only thing is with this girl is that she is asian, a coworker, and probably a business professional of some sort. So you can't just treat her like some club girl you met on the dancefloor. You still want to be confident, but you can't be too sexual or pushy.

I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe say something like "You know, I was walking home last night and I saw this advertisement for (some musical/event/etc) and I remembered how you were telling me how much you loved (musicals/events/etc.) You should come out with me on Friday night and we'll go. It'll be unreal!"
Yea, do shit like that. Confident, aggressive, not giving a fuck.

Only thing is with this girl is that she is asian, a coworker, and probably a business professional of some sort. So you can't just treat her like some club girl you met on the dancefloor. You still want to be confident, but you can't be too sexual or pushy.

I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe say something like "You know, I was walking home last night and I saw this advertisement for (some musical/event/etc) and I remembered how you were telling me how much you loved (musicals/events/etc.) You should come out with me on Friday night and we'll go. It'll be unreal!"
Asian that lived for a long time abroad have a different mentality than the ones that moved to a country a couple of years before.. You know what they say "when you are in rome act like a roman".. It's true people change and adapt to other cultures in the long run.. Some traditions stay but they do change a lot.. I never got a real job yet so I wouldn't really know how it works in firms and company businesses, but i know being confident and witty works everywhere.. Puaninja is right though u can't be tooo pushy and sexual.. If you fuck up, she might she report you sexual harassment I'm guessing.. The invite idea is pretty good actually.. It's not direct or indirect.. It just happened that there is this event and you are inviting.. If she has this idea of not fucking coworkers then she can make herself believe " Well, I'm only going with him to this event.. It's not like we are going on a date or something.. " She will believe what she wants to believe..[/quote]

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