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Author:  Genericname94 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Are the hottest girls really approached least?
As you can see, i'm a fresh out of the box newbie, but I have been reading up bits of what I can find from the pua community on the internet and i've been growing more interested in it lately. One piece of advice i've seen given by a few different master puas is that men should not be afraid of talking to the "10s" because even though it is commonly thought that they have many men to choose from, they actually rarely get approached because guys are too intimidated by them and think they are out of their league, so they go for the more average looking girls as a result, reasoning that if they get rejected by them, it won't be as bad compared to getting rejected by the "10."

I can see some merit to this logic and a good way to reprogram yourself not to put women on needlesly high pedestals and treat the hot ones like you would treat the average ones, but I find it hard to believe that the hottest girls are really the ones that are ignored most. I know there a lot of guys out there who don't have the balls to approach women (myself included :(), but I still there there would be enough men out there, good or bad looking, who have the "nothing to lose" mindset needed for them go after women on a consistent basis.

The advice itself seems to be more of a selling method for the naive males, a way to say that even ugly guys can get stunning girls because men are too afraid to talk to them. Even if hot women were really approached less, that doesn't mean that they don't have standards and don't know they are a prize. Puas constantly say that looks don't matter to women, but they really kind of do. Women who make an effort to look sexy work hard at it (makeup, dieting, expensive hair salons, etc), and i'd imagine they wouldn't want to waste all of that effort just to land an obese short guy with no fashion sense. They are going to want a guy who is at least close to thier level if not right on it. Because of that, I think the advice of not being afriad to chase women who are way out of your league could very well be a setup for failure and embarrassment.

What are your thoughts on this, though? Feel free to share your opinion or tell me why i'm wrong. :P
Author:  pumpington [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Are the hottest girls really approached least?
approached the least? probably not
approached the most? probably not

1st lets just consider that barely any guys approach to begin with, then lets consider the typical ''afc'' approach from a guy who actually has some courage

guy gets drunk to approach a girl in a bar, comes up with an excuse to talk to a girl, has 5 minute conversation to no where, it gets awkward cause he doesn't know what to say or where to take it, blows himself out

most guys who can't approach meet girls through chance via social situations such as group introductions through social circle, or work/school where they have plausible deniability to meet, once the ice is broken how ever the ''aproach'' is over with, it would be pretty fair to say that the hottest girls are rarely ''approached'' but that doesn't nessicarily mean they recieve the least attention or have no choice in the dating pool, if anything they tend to have the most choice, they are just intimidating and less guys will try to meet them out of insecurity

the thing is though, you're as attractive as you are attractive, if girls like you in general, it doesn't really make a difference if she's a 4 or a 10, the only difference really is how high her self esteem is, what her standards are, how much chemistry you have together, how the logistics are

it's the same pretty much both ways, an ugly guy is going to find a hot girl just as hot as good looking guy, everyone is just as attractive as they are attractive and the way the person looks who you are approaching is not a good metric for how you will be recieved, if anything meet any girl you are attracted to and don't give it any second thought until you have actually met her and see what she is like, instead of worrying about the what ifs and everything that could possibly go wrong, just focus on what your goal is and go after it, the worst thing that could possibly happen is you don't reach your goal, and not attempting to accomplish the goal is an automatic fail

you will for certain miss 100% of the shots you don't take and regret rarely comes from the things you do, it often comes from the things you wish you had done
Author:  Genericname94 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Are the hottest girls really approached least?
Quote:
approached the least? probably not
approached the most? probably not

1st lets just consider that barely any guys approach to begin with, then lets consider the typical ''afc'' approach from a guy who actually has some courage

guy gets drunk to approach a girl in a bar, comes up with an excuse to talk to a girl, has 5 minute conversation to no where, it gets awkward cause he doesn't know what to say or where to take it, blows himself out

most guys who can't approach meet girls through chance via social situations such as group introductions through social circle, or work/school where they have plausible deniability to meet, once the ice is broken how ever the ''aproach'' is over with, it would be pretty fair to say that the hottest girls are rarely ''approached'' but that doesn't nessicarily mean they recieve the least attention or have no choice in the dating pool, if anything they tend to have the most choice, they are just intimidating and less guys will try to meet them out of insecurity

the thing is though, you're as attractive as you are attractive, if girls like you in general, it doesn't really make a difference if she's a 4 or a 10, the only difference really is how high her self esteem is, what her standards are, how much chemistry you have together, how the logistics are

it's the same pretty much both ways, an ugly guy is going to find a hot girl just as hot as good looking guy, everyone is just as attractive as they are attractive and the way the person looks who you are approaching is not a good metric for how you will be recieved, if anything meet any girl you are attracted to and don't give it any second thought until you have actually met her and see what she is like, instead of worrying about the what ifs and everything that could possibly go wrong, just focus on what your goal is and go after it, the worst thing that could possibly happen is you don't reach your goal, and not attempting to accomplish the goal is an automatic fail

you will for certain miss 100% of the shots you don't take and regret rarely comes from the things you do, it often comes from the things you wish you had done
That is definitely a good way to look at it and add some middleground to it. Definitely more realistic than what the puas say, but still very encouraging at the same time without the sales-pitchy feel to it. I also like the advice of finding out who she is first before deciding that she perfect. Definitely a mistake I have made in the past and it made me seem like a beggar trying to get a coin from a noble, which gave her all the power.
Author:  puaninja [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Are the hottest girls really approached least?
Depends on the girl's age and lifestyle. If she is younger and in college and goes to bars and clubs, then I guarantee you she is being hit on all the time. If she is older and a business professional, she won't be hit on nearly as much.

Most of the really hot girls I've seen are with guys who have it all ironed out--muscles, good looks, money, etc--and they blow lesser guys out left and right.
Author:  Pikeman85 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Are the hottest girls really approached least?
In my experience, they get a lot of supplicatory behavior - moreso than the average woman does.

In my experience, being mean or treating them like any other girl is usually the best way to get their attention.

I told some girl last night (hottest in club - we were outside) she was boring and there were more interesting girls in the club to talk to, she told me to go talk to them, so I did and she chased me - that sort of stuff.

Physical body can be important, but as long as you're relatively decentish (I'm short but in good physical shape and I dress well) you can do ok.

If you're like 350 pounds, no job, no car, smell like ass, you probably won't get the hottest girl in the club, no matter how strong your inner game is.
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