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Author:  Street Tiger [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Friendzone problems-how to avoid it

Hey guys!
I have a big problem. I'm 16 and probably getting at my age is a bit different than when you are older. I'm visiting one of the most elite schools in my city, even country (that's important because i find girls from elite schools harder to get than from others) and there is this girl...she is 1 year younger and what we love to call peacock-as for newbies at high schools.
I've been talking to her a few times on FB (the first time a few days ago) and even exchanged a few looks, flirted a bit, but just yesterday she wouldn't give me her number, she like made a joke of it...and she is making me unsure whether is she interested in me or not. I have a feeling that maybe a bit. But i would like to know how to make her turn on (fall for) me and not find me as her friend.
That was always the issue for me...girls always find me as a nice, cute guy to talk to and be friends with...but not the one for a relationship...i mean i really want this girl, because i have a feeling that she is the sort of girl i'm looking for (character is very important to me)...so what do you think how to avoid friend-zone?
and i know there is a lot of time in front of me to make that happen, but i want to avoid friend-zone as fast as possible..

thanks for the responses and please don't mind my english i believe there are many mistakes...it's just that it's not the most important language we are learning here.

Peace out,
Street Tiger

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Friendzone problems-how to avoid it

You are young, so learn this early! I'm going to boil it down very simple!

1. Never be afraid to tell her NO! No matter how hot she is- NEVER

2. Never do her a favor with out expected repayment!

3. Always carry yourself with confidence! absolute could-care-fucking-less-what-every-fucking-body thinks
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.

Example

Girl 1: "Hey, that guy who sits behind you in math?"

Girl 2: "What about him?"

Girl 1: "I think he's kinda cute"

Girl 2: "Ugh but he's so nice, shy and quiet! Zero confidence. I wouldn't give him a chance."

The next day

Girl 2: "Oh look! there's that hot cocky guy Tiger! I soooo want him!"

Girl 1: "Go ask him out"

Girl 2: "Jeez that's intimidating! I'll just give him a smile and wait till he asks ME out"

You will stand out!

Author:  anonymous man [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Friendzone problems-how to avoid it

Quote:
You are young, so learn this early! I'm going to boil it down very simple!

1. Never be afraid to tell her NO! No matter how hot she is- NEVER

2. Never do her a favor with out expected repayment!

3. Always carry yourself with confidence! absolute could-care-fucking-less-what-every-fucking-body thinks
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.

Example

Girl 1: "Hey, that guy who sits behind you in math?"

Girl 2: "What about him?"

Girl 1: "I think he's kinda cute"

Girl 2: "Ugh but he's so nice, shy and quiet! Zero confidence. I wouldn't give him a chance."

The next day

Girl 2: "Oh look! there's that hot cocky guy Tiger! I soooo want him!"

Girl 1: "Go ask him out"

Girl 2: "Jeez that's intimidating! I'll just give him a smile and wait till he asks ME out"

You will stand out!

But in the end, the girl cheats on the cocky guy for the nice guy ;)

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Friendzone problems-how to avoid it

Quote:

But in the end, the girl cheats on the cocky guy for the nice guy ;)
ALWAYS the other way around!

Why? Nice guys don't cheat!

Author:  kasabi [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Friendzone problems-how to avoid it

The following has very little to do with the original post but it should be addressed:
Quote:
1. Never be afraid to tell her NO! No matter how hot she is- NEVER
Not just with women but with everybody in your life. . . A proper "no", is just as important as "yes".
Quote:
2. Never do her a favor with out expected repayment!
Not all 'favors' are the same and not all 'repayments' are the same. You don't go around performing monkey acts (this is not a favor) for an expected repayment for sex. (Sex shouldn't be a bargaining chip) You do things for others, simply to feel good about it and to add value to their lives.
Quote:
3. Always carry yourself with confidence! absolute could-care-fucking-less-what-every-fucking-body thinks
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.
By ^this definition, a retard is confident and sexy. Confidence ≠ could-care-fucking-less. Confidence = adding value to your life and others' lives without worrying about childish gossip. One should absolutely observe and be thoughtful of what others value.
Quote:
Girl 1: "Hey, that guy who sits behind you in math?"

Girl 2: "What about him?"

Girl 1: "I think he's kinda cute"

Girl 2: "Ugh but he's so nice, shy and quiet! Zero confidence. I wouldn't give him a chance."
So unless you're a chick or the shampoo boy at the local hair salon, don't get caught up with ^this childish crap.

On to the issue of "friend or boyfriend":

You do not need to pretend to be an asshole, a weirdo, a preppy, or anything else in order to get a girl. This goes for whether you're 16 or 60 years old. You do not "stand out" by going from one act to another, just for the sake of standing out. Instead of searching for an 'identity', search for methods. And until you figure out a personal 'flowchart' for gaining girlfriends, it will help you to write down a simple plan so you can visually see it without your emotions getting in the way.

Goal: You want to become this girl's boyfriend.
Method: You will sooner or later have to ask her out.
Strategy: There are many . . . but for now, I'd suggest you read this: i-like-you-you-like-me-vt79450.html

Currently, you are going ahead of yourself. You want confirmation that 'she likes you' prior to you actually following any kind of strategy. This is like seeking confirmation that you 'won a basketball game', prior to actually playing it. You'll never get an answer for a questions you never ask. . . and because you'll never get an 'answer' . . . but you'll continue to seek it, you'll get stuck in the 'friendzone' everytime, EVEN IF SHE REALLY DESIRED YOU. Read the "I like you, you like me" post several times and try to make a sense of it.

*By the way, if this girl wanted to toss you into the friendzone, she would have given you her number right away. It's because she has interest in you but doesn't know how to express it, she's doing the 'teenager hard to get' act. This is not a big deal at all and some ladies don't grow out of it even in their 40's. It's your job to provide her an easy way-in to your World. Lay down a simple canvas for her to easily express her interest in you. This does not mean you need to hear, "I like you." In time, you'll realize that a girl who flirts with you but withholds her number = interest. For now, do all that you can to make it EASY for her. It's easy to like "ice cream". It's easy to accept a "flavor challenge". It's easy to hang out with a guy who makes things easy for her. It's easy to kiss a guy who makes kissing an easy thing to do. On the other hand, being cornered to say, "I like you," can be a pain in the ass.

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Friendzone problems-how to avoid it

Quote:
The following has very little to do with the original post but it should be addressed:
Quote:
1. Never be afraid to tell her NO! No matter how hot she is- NEVER
Not just with women but with everybody in your life. . . A proper "no", is just as important as "yes".
Quote:
2. Never do her a favor with out expected repayment!
Not all 'favors' are the same and not all 'repayments' are the same. You don't go around performing monkey acts (this is not a favor) for an expected repayment for sex. (Sex shouldn't be a bargaining chip) You do things for others, simply to feel good about it and to add value to their lives.
Quote:
3. Always carry yourself with confidence! absolute could-care-fucking-less-what-every-fucking-body thinks
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.
confidence is sexy.
By ^this definition, a retard is confident and sexy. Confidence ≠ could-care-fucking-less. Confidence = adding value to your life and others' lives without worrying about childish gossip. One should absolutely observe and be thoughtful of what others value.
Quote:
Girl 1: "Hey, that guy who sits behind you in math?"

Girl 2: "What about him?"

Girl 1: "I think he's kinda cute"

Girl 2: "Ugh but he's so nice, shy and quiet! Zero confidence. I wouldn't give him a chance."
So unless you're a chick or the shampoo boy at the local hair salon, don't get caught up with ^this childish crap.

On to the issue of "friend or boyfriend":

You do not need to pretend to be an asshole, a weirdo, a preppy, or anything else in order to get a girl. This goes for whether you're 16 or 60 years old. You do not "stand out" by going from one act to another, just for the sake of standing out. Instead of searching for an 'identity', search for methods. And until you figure out a personal 'flowchart' for gaining girlfriends, it will help you to write down a simple plan so you can visually see it without your emotions getting in the way.

Goal: You want to become this girl's boyfriend.
Method: You will sooner or later have to ask her out.
Strategy: There are many . . . but for now, I'd suggest you read this: i-like-you-you-like-me-vt79450.html

Currently, you are going ahead of yourself. You want confirmation that 'she likes you' prior to you actually following any kind of strategy. This is like seeking confirmation that you 'won a basketball game', prior to actually playing it. You'll never get an answer for a questions you never ask. . . and because you'll never get an 'answer' . . . but you'll continue to seek it, you'll get stuck in the 'friendzone' everytime, EVEN IF SHE REALLY DESIRED YOU. Read the "I like you, you like me" post several times and try to make a sense of it.

*By the way, if this girl wanted to toss you into the friendzone, she would have given you her number right away. It's because she has interest in you but doesn't know how to express it, she's doing the 'teenager hard to get' act. This is not a big deal at all and some ladies don't grow out of it even in their 40's. It's your job to provide her an easy way-in to your World. Lay down a simple canvas for her to easily express her interest in you. This does not mean you need to hear, "I like you." In time, you'll realize that a girl who flirts with you but withholds her number = interest. For now, do all that you can to make it EASY for her. It's easy to like "ice cream". It's easy to accept a "flavor challenge". It's easy to hang out with a guy who makes things easy for her. It's easy to kiss a guy who makes kissing an easy thing to do. On the other hand, being cornered to say, "I like you," can be a pain in the ass.
Only simplifying the basics here Kasabi, thanks for the clarifications.

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