I found a post on Pua hate that said he is a complete scam and game isn't real. I find it hard to believe but to me it looks like something that can't be made up. The following is what this guy said, i just want everyone's opinion on this. Let me know what you guys think.
Hello
For those who read my posts you'll know that I had dealings with Adam Lyons and that he admitted to various counts that PUA is a SCAM, 98% of PUA instructors (including those at PUA Training) don't get laid and that the true reason he had "success" was the fact he was already popular with women before he got into Game-because of his high paying Job in Public Relations in London- and that all of the girls he laid (all 30 of them- yep just 30) were because he was friends with them prior to Game.
He even mentioned that his method of Cold Approaching women during Daygame onto successfully inviting her out to a Nightclub later (even as a "friend") was a hoax.
I knew the above point to be true as he always mentioned in his seminars that "numbers closes aren't anything" and that the chances of a woman following you up later are next to none (which has been reported widely across the board on PUA Hate AND even PUA Companies own forums).
Some other pointers I'll put in my review
1) I saw Adam Lyons get turned down infield by 3 women in a row. One a genuine HB9, one a HB8 and one a HB5!
When I got 4 sets and numbered closed them all.
2) Adam admitted he was an "un-official" club promoter. He claims he had a Database of 3000 willing women.
However in the "party photos" I've seen on Flickr- Google "Project Entourage" in Images and you'll see its the same 10 girls over and over.
He also said that he doesn't lay that many girls for those who did bother turning up.
I made the mistake of exposing www.projectentourage.com which has since been taken down- as it was proof that "Social Circle" was everything.
3) I caught Adam Lyons plagerising Neil Strauss, Mystery Method- with him quoting things off of their websites and passing them off as his own.
4) During a Nightclub visit only two girls from his "Entourage" turned up (so much for the "ten girls only" claim) and they are the only ones that feature in his promotional literature.
In my view both were under 5 foot 5- both HB6 and HB6.5.
Obviously they were trying to take me down a peg or two by saying I "wasn't good looking" or "I was hitting on them" which was bullshit- they just didn't want to have a conversation like normal people because they were trying to "big up" Adam as the only man they'd talk to.
I left them to it and......
5)...I was then approached by 5 seperate Club goers in the same Nightclub where Adam supposedly had "Social Proof" to point out that Adam is a known charlatan that invites relatively good looking- but girls with low "Social Economic" Value into Exclusive Clubs.
Adam himself only got into the club because he made the requisite minimum of $73,000- $90,000 (£50,000-£60,000 GBP) per year as a PR man- but even more as a PUA.
Most girls in the club don't like him due to his known PUA reputation as "sleazy" who'll shag anything.
6) Although the above should've been enough, I did some background research into "Social Economics" what it was etc.
Brad Ps "Club CD" is good "theory" on the subject.
When I qustioned Adam Lyons about our previous encounter- he cracked and admitted that Entourage Game- was merely having social skills and understanding that the majority of "normal guys" have.
He admitted that a) fancy nightclub invites were good for attracting the girls- even though he didn't sleep with the vast majority of them
b) his job in Public Relations did indeed mean he had higher "Career Networking Value" and this "helping" girls often lead to sex. Because women do fuck guys for Networking Value.
7) I met his girlfriend/wife Amanda Torres during the above. In three words how would I describe her?
Icy- Materialistic-Emotionless
She came across as very "stepford wives" despite me saying a friendly hello and trying to build a normal conversation (again like all Adam's girls- she wasn't very co-operative- nor responsive- nor interested in adding anything to the teachings0. I found her rude so I rightfully ignored her for the rest of training0 trying on occassion to get her to chip in her "extensive PUA knowledge as a world class female trainer".
After I handed my Money to Adam (cash in hand) I went to the toilet- as I came back she was leaving with my money (I saw Adam hand it to her). I asked where she had gone Adam said "Shopping".
Wow, you go girl! What a way to prove you are a credit to all women. You go shopping halfway during a Bootcamp! Adam said "she felt you only wanted to speak to me" WTF!
I'd been encouraging her to chip in- but she gave one worded answers and looked bored- as well as lying about her profession. When I asked what she wanted to be in High School (I knew she was planning to be a Cheerleader) she said "Writer".
Anyways after the bootcamp ended she didn't even say goodbye-and said "I'm going to spend the rest on a brand new IPOD." before fucking off the Oxford Streets Apple Store, not even saying thank you or good luck.
Adam's junior trainer. When I talked about what we (Adam and myself) had discussed "Networking Value" and "Entourage*" (*read- normal Social Skills) I made the observation."You know Neil Strauss. He had a lot of powerful connections/networking value within the music industry. In fact come to think of it people were suprised he pulled Lisa Leveridge (HB8)- when in fact she was in a shitty band and probably needed a big break. So come to think of it he didn't need Game. Also Lisa Leveridge's next boyfriend was Robbie Williams (mega UK popstar and former member of Take That) so she was continuing with the "music networking" boyfriends"
(as another point Neil Strauss' current girlfriend is a pornstar. Whats the connection? Answer- he wrote "How to Make Love like a pornstar" with Jemma Jameson. Again powerful connections in the porn industry!)
"so my question to you (Jenk). Is that we don't need Game at all do we? Its all about Social Career/networking Value"
Jenk "Yep. Neil Strauss already had the connections. He didn't know his own worth or how to apply them. Thats where Mystery came in"
(sic)
Me- "So whats your Networking Value Jenk?"
Jenk "Adam Lyons"