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Author:  GKS [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  How did I handle her shit tests?
So I was experimenting with some new idea and put up a really cocky and straight to the point profile. I sent the following message to a HB 10:
Quote:
Me: You look just like my boss's younger sister whom I'm not allowed to sleep with. Is your sister [name]?

HB10: Lol wrong girl :) sister named cindy and have. Good friend named Melanie but she owns a salon so I doubt you know her

Me: Ha in that case, I want to fuck your brain out in a confession booth at a church full of people ;)

HB10: Ha no thanks :)
HB10: Does that really work


Me: Having sex in a confession booth? I've done it before, one of my favorite. The thrill was amazing and a lot of fun. Only if you're not too loud though.

HB10: Lol no... You are so disrespectful towards women. You think your body can get you anyone and allow you to just ask and receive ? Lol one day you will grow up haha
Hb10: Your friend is cute though ... You are a little short for my taste


Me: Cool. I can introduce you to him. But I doubt that you're his type. Like me, he's more into open minded and adventurous girls.

HB10: You can be open minded and adventurous and still have some self respect. Lol


Me: You missed the point. You can't be open minded if you can't accept someone whose values on life are different than yours. Hence, you judge people. I don't. I respect your point of view while you ignore mine and being stereotype.

We are raised from different cultures and environments, who are you to judge that my values and personality are wrong? Based on how you were raised and the value that your society has embedded in your head? Who are you to decide whether something is immoral or disrespect? Is it even your opinion or just something you agree to be the truth because everyone else in society think so and you don't dare to have different opinion?

I'm being true to myself and honest with what I want. I don't feel the need to follow the rules or what others think. So if that sounds absurd to you and you can't handle it, no problem. Attraction isn't a choice, I won't force it. But please don't go around calling yourself open minded while you have such narrow views on life.
There was some IOIs there because she kept coming back with her replies and throwing me shit test to calibrate me. I tried my best to handle them. I just couldn't resit the urge to put her to her place at the end. After that reply, she shut up and I didn't hear anything from her since yesterday.

Would you guys have done it differently?
Author:  R.C [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How did I handle her shit tests?
Well you clearly blew any chance with her with that last speech.

You expressed your intentions and sexual interest way too early. Strangely enough it didnt seem to make her too uncomfortable but it did raise a HUGE bitch shield.Those weren't shit test. Just an immense BS.
You also didn't neg.
You blew off trust right at the start and implicitly rapport.



Cocky can give great results but only in combination with fun. So cocky funny works because it implies vagueness. You're cocky but you don't come across as a huge asshole or arrogant prick because you're also fun , so they can't take anything personal.


The whole idea of building rapport and what it does in fact is it disarms the BS (in a subtle way). The LMR is simply a remnant of what used to be a fully functional BS that you successfully disabled.

For all you know she could actually have been a very open minded person. But she responded negatively to your over-agressive profile.
Author:  GKS [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How did I handle her shit tests?
You're right. It was a rookie mistake for that last speech, it does sound like I'm too arrogant yet qualifying myself to her now that I look at it from your point of view. I should have kept it short and more playful.
Author:  Don Horneone [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How did I handle her shit tests?
I think some of her comments were actually disrespectful, e.g:

"one day you will grow up haha" (interesting that she accuses you of being disrespectful in that same paragraph)

and

"still have some self respect."

I think you probably needed to come back with a very strong frame to establish that this disrespect wasn't okay, but what you actually said (apart from being too long) was (a) too abstract and philosophical and (b) judgmental in a way that undermined your case.

It's cool that you opened with a sexual frame though. Like someone else said though, you just took it too far too soon. Personally I would have picked up on the comment about "Good friend named Melanie but she owns a salon so I doubt you know her". What did she mean by that? Whether seriously or jokingly, I think you should have called her on it. Any little cheeky thing like that I reckon you need to call them on. Give em an inch and they'll take a mile.
Author:  ItsAlwaysOn [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How did I handle her shit tests?
this isnt awful. personally i would never say shit like that to a girl but i do respect how youre really testing the limits on what you can/cant say to a girl. i mean youll never know where the boundaries are if you dont do things like this occasionally. so this could certainly end up being a positive learning experience.

i think this is where you messed up. when she said this:
Quote:
HB10: Lol no... You are so disrespectful towards women. You think your body can get you anyone and allow you to just ask and receive ? Lol one day you will grow up haha
you should have switched it up. this is a great spot to turn humble and back down a little. maybe if you had been a little more playful and switched topics it might have gone better? something like:

"lol i'm just messing with you weirdo. besides everyone knows that a burger king bathroom stall is much better than a confessional anyway. thats my real favorite spot. ;) so tell me your favorite flavor of ice cream and ill tell you if we're compatible or not."
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