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Author:  Project X [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Can I fix this?

There is a girl at the university I attend who has had a boyfriend for multiple years. However, I did not know when I first saw her, and thinking she was cute, I got her number at a party. We get along pretty well, and I got several IOI's. For example I told her to feel how soft my pants were and she rubbed my leg for a few extra seconds and looked in my eye.

I have mostly been trying some negging with her, giving her a lot of teasing and back handed complements. However, now the problem is we are on break and she is probably with her boyfriend, and I am at a loss as to how to get her out for the first time. She has initiated texting conversations three or four times, and I have been mostly negging. One point I wonder if I had a mis-step on was as follows. She texted me asking if I was excited for christmas, and I said yes, especially for the present she was going to get me. She laughingly responded that she didn't have one for me. I said I was dissapointed that my girlfriend wasn't getting me a christmas present, and she responded that I must be confused because she has a boyfriend. I responded saying that she was confused because I knew her as a friend (looking back, I would have responded with "Oh, you are cheating on me already?").

I continued to say that she should stop paying me so much attention and talk to her boyfriend more, and then I jokingly added that I was going to talk to my boyfriend as well. She gave a short response, saying good plan. I took this as a kinda cold response so i told her she was cute when she got upset, and she said she wasnt upset, which i assume is a lie. Most of my negging has gone fairly well and she has been interested (for example, one time she told me I was always making her mad, and I said she may want to leave then if she was always going to be mad, and she said she didn't want to leave), giving me many IOIs, but this time I am wondering if I dug myself in too deep and im kind of at a loss for what to do. Suggestions?

Author:  daffy duck [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can I fix this?

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There is a girl at the university I attend who has had a boyfriend for multiple years. However, I did not know when I first saw her, and thinking she was cute, I got her number at a party. We get along pretty well, and I got several IOI's. For example I told her to feel how soft my pants were and she rubbed my leg for a few extra seconds and looked in my eye.

I have mostly been trying some negging with her, giving her a lot of teasing and back handed complements. However, now the problem is we are on break and she is probably with her boyfriend, and I am at a loss as to how to get her out for the first time. She has initiated texting conversations three or four times, and I have been mostly negging. One point I wonder if I had a mis-step on was as follows. She texted me asking if I was excited for christmas, and I said yes, especially for the present she was going to get me. She laughingly responded that she didn't have one for me. I said I was dissapointed that my girlfriend wasn't getting me a christmas present, and she responded that I must be confused because she has a boyfriend. I responded saying that she was confused because I knew her as a friend (looking back, I would have responded with "Oh, you are cheating on me already?").

I continued to say that she should stop paying me so much attention and talk to her boyfriend more, and then I jokingly added that I was going to talk to my boyfriend as well. She gave a short response, saying good plan. I took this as a kinda cold response so i told her she was cute when she got upset, and she said she wasnt upset, which i assume is a lie. Most of my negging has gone fairly well and she has been interested (for example, one time she told me I was always making her mad, and I said she may want to leave then if she was always going to be mad, and she said she didn't want to leave), giving me many IOIs, but this time I am wondering if I dug myself in too deep and im kind of at a loss for what to do. Suggestions?
take it from me. leave girls with bfriends well alone.

Author:  puaninja [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can I fix this?

Yea, this is another of those kind of pointless texting loops where you guys are flirting but don't really know what you are yet. She either just want's to be friends, or doesn't know how to properly flirt with a guy and takes things to literal and serious. You are just trying to win her over, but you don't really know the best way to go about it, and she isn't helping matters.

To be honest, what you're doing is AFC. Especially if you are acknowleding her bf. I can relate because in the past I'd like a girl and I'd goad them and neg them until they got really annoyed with me. I didn't really know how to get past that and just man up and ask them out. Don't worry about coming up with clever lines and retorts. Stop the witty banter and start gaming her in a more direct way. Don't mention the bf anymore, he is not part of your alpha-sphere.

Author:  Project X [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can I fix this?

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Yea, this is another of those kind of pointless texting loops where you guys are flirting but don't really know what you are yet. She either just want's to be friends, or doesn't know how to properly flirt with a guy and takes things to literal and serious. You are just trying to win her over, but you don't really know the best way to go about it, and she isn't helping matters.

To be honest, what you're doing is AFC. Especially if you are acknowleding her bf. I can relate because in the past I'd like a girl and I'd goad them and neg them until they got really annoyed with me. I didn't really know how to get past that and just man up and ask them out. Don't worry about coming up with clever lines and retorts. Stop the witty banter and start gaming her in a more direct way. Don't mention the bf anymore, he is not part of your alpha-sphere.
Thanks, you make good points. That is exactly what I am hung up on right now, I take a while to text back because I'm always trying to think of something witty to say, and after a while I feel she will just get annoyed. But that being said, at least the first few times we texted, do you think some negging would be helpful before the ask out?

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