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Author:  Moose185 [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:28 am ]
Post subject:  two dates already and nothing!

Hi guys,

went on the second date with this girl earlier this week I had a good time but didn't make a move. I get on quite well with this girl and I was making her laugh a lot. However there was no kiss or touching. I really need help I don't want to get into the friend zone. I'm get really nervous of making a move.

I don't know if i've messed up just yet. She has invited me to her house this weekend to watch dvd's. I've fallen into this trap before where I thought this meant more but actually just meant the girl wanted to watch a film.

any tips? I seriously need let this girl know I like her more than a friend.

thanks.

Author:  conquistador1982 [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:19 am ]
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ok..here its!
Just look at her body language...if she laughs at everything you say...she is into you. And by asking you to go to her house, she consciously or unconsciously wants you. Look her into her eyes, constantly, and smile as well. If she touches you..do the same, if she gets closer smile and gets closer. And then tell her, that you have thinking about her lately...that there is something about her that makes you want to know her more...!

Author:  Tr@veler [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:04 pm ]
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"OK! I'll bring the wine and you take care of the glasses!"

Whatever. Just gauge her reactions. Is she sending off IOIs? Seriously man, stop being a pussy and just make the move. Who cares what she thinks about you? If it doesn't work out, you leave and move on. You have other stuff to do. Don't be afraid of showing your intent, and never ever fucking apologize for it.

Author:  Versalis [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:22 pm ]
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Okay, when you're at her place, sit down next to her and promptly put your arm around her. During the opening part of the movie tell her how nice she smells and lean in and brush your nose against her ear as you go closer. Then a few minutes later, get her to look directly at you and make sure you have a sexual rather than nervous mindset first. Then just kiss her.

It's not complicated, but I'm guessing you're new and used to dating girls and going super slow and moving awkwardly towards sex. It's normal and you'll get better. But you need to remember something. If a girl likes you, she wants you to get sexual. She wants you to touch her. She wants you to kiss her. On the first date, %100 of the time. That would include an 18 year old religious girl that has banged literally one guy before.

Keep that in mind in the future. Good luck!

Author:  conquistador1982 [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:06 pm ]
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Just take some calculate risk...at least you will not kick your self in the ass for not trying something!

Author:  MaxPower5150 [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:05 am ]
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Okay, when you're at her place, sit down next to her and promptly put your arm around her. During the opening part of the movie tell her how nice she smells and lean in and brush your nose against her ear as you go closer. Then a few minutes later, get her to look directly at you and make sure you have a sexual rather than nervous mindset first. Then just kiss her.
Hes not gonna do that, he'd be way too nervous.
What I do when Im watching movies with a girl is I move like Im going to lay down with my head in her lap and ask her if I can use her for a pillow. She says yes and I lay my head in her lap, and put my arm under her legs with my hand in between her legs. This leaves her with no place to put her arm except on my chest. Use your thumb to rub her leg gently and she start rubbing your chest gently. Watch the movie and talk/laugh a little. At some point just look up at her and ask her if you can kiss her. Bam, your makin out.

Author:  GKS [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:06 am ]
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You need to tackle the problem head on. There was no kiss or sexual interaction. Why? Because you were too afraid to make a move or because she flat out rejected any of your advance. If it's the first reason, fix it. Be a man and take risk. You might get slapped or rejected, but then you know it's time to move on, rather than spend the next year being in friendzone wasting both your and her time.

If it's the latter, then you have to realize whether she rejects you because of ASD or because that she has no interest. That's an important skill that PUAs need to learn. After all, it's all about number game, you focus time and energy on targets that are attracted to you and ignore the timewasters.

Author:  PowerfulAlpha [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:30 am ]
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One big sign is when your about to leave or drop her off home and she just hangs around for ages like "uumm I should go" but stays it means she wants to kiss you.

Usually if she doesn't she will just leave pretty quickly.

Author:  puaninja [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:13 pm ]
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There are a few things you need to understand going into it. Is the girl really young? Is this your first or second date? If so, she might not be expecting a sexual liaison to occur. If she's not expecting or aware of the fact that you want to get sexual with her, then you'll have to really ease her into it. You can't just go head long and start kino'ing her 15 minutes into the movie and hope you are fucking by the 90 minute point.

Deep down inside her there is a girl who wants the guy to get sexual. It may be that she hasn't even realized it, so you have to help her out a bit. When you get up to go use the restroom, come back and plop yourself down on the couch right next to her. Do it really hard and bump right into her. Make it funny and flirtacious. This will jolt her out of the non-sexual movie-viewing mode she's in. She'll laugh and push you away or something. Then sit on the floor between her feet and tell her to rub your shoulders. Get that girl to start kino'ing you! Flip the script. Don't stare at her awkwardly for an hour and then ask for a kiss. Be bouncing around having fun, making her kino you, and keeping her on her toes. Even if it doesn't work out, I'd rather fuck things up for myself by being a goofball and having fun, rather than going out like an AFC.

Author:  Versalis [ Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:15 am ]
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One big sign is when your about to leave or drop her off home and she just hangs around for ages like "uumm I should go" but stays it means she wants to kiss you.

Usually if she doesn't she will just leave pretty quickly.
The fuck is this shit? End of date kiss? Never, ever, ever. You're not 13. You kiss her during the date. Not at some awkward moment outside of her house.

The whole point of these questionable kino routines is to build natural escalation. I'd say just go for natural and be direct, but whatever. There is nothing normal or natural about an end of date kiss.

PUANinja has a good alternative plan.

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