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How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
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Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
So I been adjusting my game more, and I've been getting as much experience as possible. I noticed I had this one sticking point: getting by the first 5 minutes. This critical timing pretty much dictates how the rest of the interaction will go: PEOPLE GO BY FIRST IMPRESSIONS.

Once I get past that, I'm gold, like I'm in the zone and I'm focused I know exactly shat to say.
But I CANT get that far if she's not attracted to me.
So what should I talk about of say in this area of game in order to build attraction - prior to comfort.

Thanks guys.
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
That's your problem. Attraction doesn't come before comfort. The girl must trust you and be comfortable before she can become attracted to you. You don't build attraction in the first five minutes!
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
Quote:
That's your problem. Attraction doesn't come before comfort. The girl must trust you and be comfortable before she can become attracted to you. You don't build attraction in the first five minutes!
I'm just using the Mystery method as a rule of thumb for the sake of the conversation (Attraction comes first).

But this is what I usually do in set:

DIRECT GAME OPENER: I thought you were cute and wanted to come and say 'hi' and see if your looks match your personality xD

INDIRECT GAME OPENER: I'll make an observation, ask an opinion or help.

How do you suggest I follow these two, if I can figure this out, my game is solid.
Author:  VietnameseProdigy [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
Its not even five minutes. The interaction itself will be awkward on her part because she never experienced it. Your opener creates a surprising WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED effect. You just need to create some normalcy so she eases up and becomes less nervous. Rapport building questions + some teasing
Author:  xCasualx [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
Quote:
So I been adjusting my game more, and I've been getting as much experience as possible. I noticed I had this one sticking point: getting by the first 5 minutes. This critical timing pretty much dictates how the rest of the interaction will go: PEOPLE GO BY FIRST IMPRESSIONS.

Once I get past that, I'm gold, like I'm in the zone and I'm focused I know exactly shat to say.
But I CANT get that far if she's not attracted to me.
So what should I talk about of say in this area of game in order to build attraction - prior to comfort.

Thanks guys.
Another Option: Throw in a nice little 30s interaction, and leave w/ them wondering why you didn't stick around. When you come back later, whether it be 5 minutes or 1hour, they will be more receptive to you, because you walked away on a 'high note'. And, you can more easily go into a normal conversation, comfort, and honestly being rather 'chode' like, but it will work.

My example: Last Saturday night I saw an HB8 walking w/ 2 shots in her hands (I knew she was walking back to her seat and friend, hb7). I don't recall exactly what I said but I made a comment something like:

Me: I kind of met her as she was sitting down to her table.... "Aww, I saw you walking around w/ an extra shot and was gonna try to make friends w/ you so I could snag one."

She and her friend kind of laugh, I have their attention.

Me: "Yea, but I can see it is for you and your friend. What are you guys taking shots of?"

She: "oh, it's tequila" they might have said something else, I had general positive energy.

Me: "Well, I don't have a shot. But here, Ima cheers to ya'll, what are We celebrating."

She: "Oh, this is my cousin, I'm visiting her"

Me: "Well, cheers to family and good times" I cheers both of them separetly, had pretty solid EC, and said: "Cool, ya'll have fun" and walked away.

Went back to my buddies already in a mixed set, just a warm up set really. Talked for a while, maybe grabbed a drink. Came back over to the girls w/ my wingman, sat down like a boss at their table. Introduced them to my buddy, which then led me into introducing myself. And they had 0 objections. Went into boring, normal conversation tbh. But, when I introduced my buddy, I said it like "hey, I brought my wingman w/ me" which was playful and stating the obvious and sort of my intentions. Led to them being our dates for the night at several venues and kiss closes.

Later in the night, they complemented me in 'how natural it seemed when I came and talked to them'. And then I left, and they were like wtf...they wanted me to say. Now, maybe I could have stayed initially, but I just felt more pressure that way. In Mystery terms, I gave them a false-take away. And when I came back, I did absolutely nothing special...I just talked like a normal dude, but it totally worked. My wingman is like you, really good guy, good at holding conversations. He just doesn't open well. So, I get him into a set a lot, and he's golden. It's just the opening that is harder for him.

Summarize: Throw out 'soundbites' and decent little 1min interactions and leave. Revisit/open them later and know that A1 is over, maybe even A2, you can really just go into comfort type shit... I dunno tho, I don't follow Mystery Method
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do I get by the first 5 minutes?
Guys thanks for both of your answers - very helpful...
But I don't feel that it got exactly to the point. I think Vietnam helped on the going direct part but the indirect part hasn't been responded to properly.

If someone can break it down systematically for ne that would be very helpful - that's how my mind works - e.g. Step 1: complete, Step 2: complete etc,.

What should I follow up with after going indirect?
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