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| Author: | anonbro [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | A kino and kiss tip for the truly hopeless AFC noobs |
There are many great articles out there on kino progression and the steps of physical escalation, DiCarlo's ladder for instance. However, for me as a hopeless AFC noob, trying to move through the levels felt incredibly awkward. I would think of it as a list like "ok, I need to touch her hand, now that I've done that I can incidentally touch her leg, now it's time to give her a hug but this feels weird why am I even hugging her?" It all just felt completely unnatural. What I think the articles neglect (probably because unless you're as hopeless as I was, you just naturally know this), is that you have to tie the kino to the conversation. I was looking at the steps like levels of a video game, which is completely wrong. The reason for the kino is a lot more important than the order, and you never touch her without a reason. I was doing that and it was incredibly awkward. You're touching her to emphasize points, to physically lead her to a location, etc. And most importantly, you're touching her as a reward. It took me MANY dates to figure out how I could naturally hug a girl to "get to the next level," when it's really this freakin' simple: she says something that's a common ground between you, you excitedly say "oh I love XXXXX too, give me a hug" and you hug her. None of this ridiculous Mystery overt compliance test stuff where you do something like say "give me a kiss on the cheek" for no reason. It's as simple as when she does something you like, reward her. I also figured out a great time to go for the first kiss, not so much for a chick you just met in a bar 20 minutes ago but rather when you're on an actual date. When she says something to you that reveals an insecurity, look into her eyes, do the behind the ear hair stroke, then depending on what makes more sense, say "actually I find that very attractive about you" or if it's something that you shouldn't really compliment, diffuse her insecurity some other way, then kiss her. For example, a great girl I was just out with said "I'm glad you understand me, sometimes people have a hard time understanding my accent." I casually say "You sound fine to me, not sure what their problem is." Stop walking, turn her towards me, look into her eyes and say "Actually, I thought your accent was really sexy." Perfect time to kiss. I'm sure this is probably obvious to most people but hopefully it helps at least someone. |
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| Author: | pocket_rockets [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A kino and kiss tip for the truly hopeless AFC noobs |
Sounds good in theory. Have you tried it? |
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| Author: | Fly_Swatter [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A kino and kiss tip for the truly hopeless AFC noobs |
Quote: Sounds good in theory. Have you tried it?
It's not theory... It's fact. I had this same issue when I was out of the game. Now it all comes naturally to me. So yes, you need to tie it to the conversation. But then you may tell yourself "okay well what do I need to talk about and what do I need to say?" I don't know. I just avoid serious conversations and focus on teasing and joking. Eventually, something to say comes to mind on the spot that gives me the green light to touch or kiss her. I don't even think anymore. It just comes naturally with practice.
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| Author: | Andre2807 [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A kino and kiss tip for the truly hopeless AFC noobs |
Generally, I agree to most of the points you bring out. Mostly, tying the convo with kino. But if you look at Magic Bullets... Their physical esclatation goes hand in hand with where you are at gaming. Staying away from serious conversations (deep comfort) is brilliant when done right. If you have a decent location, and you've actually done enough kino, Deep Comfort such can land you with a heavy make out session... Opening & Transision = High 5's, arm touches etc. Teasing, negging & joking = Playfull touches, arm punches etc. Attraction & DHV = Palm reading routine, kino games etc Deep Comfort = Holding hands, arm around shoulder, fixing/smelling her hair etc. As you progress through the levels of gaming, your kino levels should jump through the hoops too. |
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